Halal-help!

Ales. So glad all went so well.

For what it is worth, Sammy enjoyed tortellini (tomato and mozzarella) with tomato sauce, a cheese slice in white bread sandwich, a yogurt, and after fun at the playground near our house, 2 mini packets of little gingerbread men.
DH, his cousin and I had homemade minestrone (no bacon, in case Sammy wanted the soup) bread, Brie and/or goats cheese, followed by pears poached in white wine.
When I consulted DD she said "Pasta in tomato sauce, Mum, every time!"

Eh?

Molehill?
Mountain?

All right, I was only making the point that M0nica wasn't the only one to get the wrong end of the stick...crikey!

Apologies if anything was obscure . . . .
I said
A cousin is coming to lunch with her 4year old (step)great grandson Which I then repeated in an attack of luckyducky's "tortology"
I went on to apologise profoundly
I realise I expressed myself badly, perhaps making it look as if DH's cousin as well as the little boy was Muslim, but he is the son of her late husband's daughter from his first marriage, also Scottish, but married to a N African. Cousin is on half term "Granny duty" and the little boy and his family live just 12 or so miles away from us, so a good opportunity for DH and cousin to meet up

OP in this case being 'original post'.

Yes, yes, put it on Youtube please

Perhaps it should be Alea who gives you permission, it is her thread

To be fair to M0nica and others, the OP wasn't exactly clear on the point of the little boy being the only Muslim member of the party...

Permission to do the happy dance because I got something right?

And no, there won't be any alcohol, cousin is driving, DH doesn't and I'd better not.

Thank you phoenix, got it in one!

Just us, DH's Scottish cousin and one wee boy whose father happens to be N African and is Muslim.
No big deal, veg soup, good bread, good farm house cheese (for us) cheese slices or tomatoes for wee boy, (with the option of pasta in tomato sauce if he doesn't like veg soup) poached pears / yogurt or fruit.

I think that's right phoenix

I presume alea won't be serving him any alcohol .......

I would expect a 4 year old to eat the same food as adults and not require separate catering.
MOnica I would expect the same, as long as all the food is suitable for Muslim and non-Muslim that should solve any problems of him wanting something he sees that wouldn't be suitable for him.

M0nica seems to be quite a bit of misunderstanding here!

As I understand it, the only person in the party who IS muslim is the little boy! (Could be wrong, often am)

Alea, you completely misunderstood me. In the context of the rest of my email it was clear I meant that the 4 year old, as a muslim, could eat exactly the same food as the other muslims in the party. He didn't need to be fed separate food from adults in his party just because he is only 4. I was not suggesting in any way that food restrictions applying to other members of his family would not apply to him.

When I have muslim visitors we all eat exactly the same food. I only serve food my guests can eat and that is what I eat as well. In the same way I do not serve alcohol at all to anyone when being visited by observant muslims.

Mind you I have had less observant muslims visit and had all my concerns and care kindly dismissed and they have tucked into bacon, pork sausages and pie and drunk alcohol.

Yes, of course, I realise now, thanks djen

Jewish and Muslim food laws are similar. Not sure about the milk and meat bit.

In Birmingham, where I taught, even the young children were trained to know what to eat. They a knew about Haribo. At one time biscuits had animal fat so had to check them but mostly ok now.

Some of the teachers in those days thought it didn't matter as long as we didn't tell them!!!! Luckily there is less ignorance now.

I wonder if you are a Muslim you could eat Halal beef derived gelatine? The food laws appear to be alot less stringent than the more orthodox Jewish "food laws!"

If you want to give jelly, Alea, Tesco sell a Halal one. It is in powder form and sets within minutes. For this reason I often use it, although it is not as clear as the normal ones.

It is not that complicated. Avoid pork! With any small child you do not know, it is worth finding out what stuff he usually has at home, any real dislikes and how concerned the parents are about up holding dietry rules.

There were quite a lot of Jewish children at my kids primary school whose parents would happily go out to a cafe for a bacon butty, but never had non kosher food in the house.

My 3yr old grandson seems to eat anything given to him so he is very easy to feed. He likes curry (rendered milder by his mum.) Chinese food and he is very partial to Wagamama noodles, garlic bread, "oblibs".

Providing the cheese is suitable for vegetarians, roseq.

Alea
Just thought it was funny, not shooting you down

As long as the yogurt is not thickened with gelatine .....

(sory, but some is)

I knew somebody would pick me up shoot me down for that, but not much indication of mixed race/religion/ethnicity of DGC in the replies!!

Yes, I know lullydully shame about the Haribos as I have a bumper pack of Hallowe'en sweets ready for tiny "trick or treaters" at the weekend!
So veggie soup it is, bread, cheese or tomatoes etc, probably fruit (is yogurt OK?) for pud, and gingerbread men for "snack"!