Vegan/Plant Based Do you ever wonder about the animals you eat eat.

The "best" vegans?

There isn't a standard for performance or acceptability that vegans need to aspire to.

As decided by GN. How to do vegan right 🤣🤣🤣.

Better get on to the Vegetarian Society to inform them of the new standard.

volver3

The "best" vegans?

There isn't a standard for performance or acceptability that vegans need to aspire to.

Thank you so much V3! 🕸️ I knew you’d be on the look out for me posting!
Of course there isn’t a standard for performance etc. and if there was, I expect you’d put the proselytising vegans at the top.
Pop off back to your plant based soup. (I had some for lunch).

No no, your daft insults won't divert from your ridiculous posts this time, Mollygo.

"Best vegans" indeed.

Will you be providing them with a certificate of approval?

A badge I think volver, a big one.

Look what you can get on Amazon.

If you want to hand those out, I’m sure your vegan buddies would love one.

volver3

Look what you can get on Amazon.

Why does this not surprise me.
Or even that anybody has so little to do they could bother to go looking.

Mollygo

If you want to hand those out, I’m sure your vegan buddies would love one.

Ooohhhh....

The only vegan I know personally is an "Iron Man".

He could put it with the medals he's won.

I was brought up to eat meat and whilst I eat very little now, that's not because of any outside influences. There are vegetarians who follow that path for the health of the animal and vegetarians who follow for their own health.'.

Maybe I'm particularly hard-hearted but looking into the eyes of a wee piglet doesn't stop me liking bacon.

It's not a case of "loving or not loving animals", if it was, then we'd have a league table.

Dear little fluffy lambs - love them, too cute to eat.
Haddock - who can love a haddock? Pass the lemon wedges.

People simply don't think like that.

In my experience, people care much more about the conditions animals are kept in and reared, and why should the death of the animal be the focus or point of vegetarianism?
We all die eventually and death is no big deal.

Yes, I know very well that death in a slaughterhouse is horrific and frightening to the animal so is death on the hills if a sheep is ill and can't get up. So is being pulled down by lions.

Animals, like people, rarely die peacefully. But horrific human death has never stopped wars or cruelty either. Cause and effect doesn't work here.

How an animals is treated when it's alive is, to me at least, the biggest issue

Nan99

Vitamin B12 is produced by bacteria, not animals or plants. As such, animals, including humans, must obtain it directly or indirectly from bacteria. It can be found in bacteria-laden manure and unsanitized water, though we obviously should not be consuming either of those things.

B12 comes from foods of animal origin, meat, fish, eggs. Natural . Cereals and yeast products are fortified.
So unless you want to eat bacteria laden root veg, not washed, dairy products are your only option. Or from a laboratory produced pill.

Many animal foods contain high amounts of vitamin B12 because they accumulate this bacterial product during their lives, and livestock are often supplemented with vitamin B12 in their feed. These animals are also exposed to manure in their living conditions, with some even being fed manure. (For example, cows are sometimes fed poultry waste.) In fact, the FDA has reported that most meats are contaminated with fecal bacteria. So animals are given b12 supplements. Plant based sources of B12 such as fortified non dairy milks, cereals, mushrooms, nutritional yeast are sources of B12. You don't need to eat dead bodies to get enough of this vitamin.

I enjoy a varied diet and I intend to carry on with it regardless of being preached at by particular groups.

Shouldn’t everyone know where their food comes from? And if you eat meat or fish, it makes sense to at least find out how your choices affect the lives animals lead. Could I suggest that anyone who eats meat/fish/dairy/eggs but wants to know more about how to make ethical choices, looks at the website of Compassion in n World Farming www.ciwf.org? It’s a non-extremist charity that works with farmers and consumers to improve animal welfare. I’m a volunteer school speaker for CIWF and their work is really valuable.

Grantanow your post could be written by a meat eater, a vegetarian or a vegan.

Years ago, I tried being a vegetarian but gave it up again due to health issues.

I buy meat and fish from suppliers that take an active interest in animal welfare, not from factory farmers.

@mogsmaw I completely agree with you about the flood on the market of fake meat products! I have been veggie for over 50 yrs since a school trip took us to a farm and we watched pigs being slaughtered! I never ate meat again after that, it was so traumatic for a 7 yr old child to watch something being killed. So I have seen how veggie options have changed in restaurants and supermarkets now since the 1970's and yes it is great there is more awareness and choices, but 10 yrs ago it was much better in restaurants. At least the veggie options were vegetable based, now they have all jumped on the fake meat bandwagon assuming all vegetarians 'really' want to eat meat (but chose not to for various reason - save the planet eco warriors, animal rights, health etc etc) so only offer things pretending to be meat drives me nuts! I do not want to eat anything that looks like or tastes like meat, where have all the falafel ,beetroot, bean burgers, onion bhaji burgers gone, chickpea curry, so many options instead of fake meat. Recently on Tesco website I found 9 pages of vegetarian meal options 90% fake meat - feels likie we are going backwards!

Couldn’t agree more Cookiemonster

Fancy taking little children to see that. How awful

No need for nastiness Merystreep.

Even as a young child I could not eat meat, hate the taste of beef & lamb very greasy. Pork always made me very sick. So thought I was being very clever from about 4-5 years of age getting our dog to sit under the table & wait while I carefully cut up whatever meat was put on my plate & pushed it to the edge of the plate while eating all the veggies then pushing the meat into the waiting mouth of our dog! Years later my DM told me they had realised what I was doing & that was why I had very little meat put on my plate! I carry on avoiding even chicken or fish to this day. Just doesnt taste good! Not one of the ‘if it has a face I wont eat it’ crowd. Just dont like meat!

In response to a few replies - if you eat fish but not meat, you're not vegetarian. You're a pescatarian. Just to be pedantic. 😁

Now we know that communications between plants and trees can be recorded, and they all react to a tree or plant in distress, should we be eating plants?

Rocks.

We should all eat rocks, just to be on the safe side.

Coco51

Now we know that communications between plants and trees can be recorded, and they all react to a tree or plant in distress, should we be eating plants?

Fruitarians just eat stuff that has naturally dropped of the tree.
And possibly dust too