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Porridge and crumpets are junk food

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M0nica Thu 05-Dec-24 10:31:05

According to the latest government paper governing when foodstuffs can be advertised on tv www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgrwzx8er9o

Considering many children walk down streets where junk food shops and take aways are ubiquitous and for many are where their parents buy food. Not to mention that children go into supermarkets of all kinds with their parents, who buy most of the food they eat, is banning food adverts from television really going to have any effect on children's eating habits.

I am reminded of the sugar tax. It was intended to reduce the sugar conten tof drinks so that they would be less sweet and peole would gradually begin to prefer foods with less sugar.

What actually happened is that manufacturers replaced the sugar with artificial sweeteners, making the drinks sweeter than ever.

All that will happen this time is that manufacturers will remove fat and sugar rom products, replace them with sweeteners and other ultra processed chemicals that give food a fat feel, and we will e in the ame situation as we are with sugar reduced drinks, foods full of more and more chemical food substitutes, that are also contributors to weight gain.

For more information read any thing written by Chris Tulleken and Tim Spector on UPFs

Allira Fri 06-Dec-24 11:17:04

pascal30

Thankyou Allira.. very useful

I think they have already started but not sure if these products are in the supermarkets yet.
I only know because DD told me, it has been kept rather quiet.

pascal30 Fri 06-Dec-24 11:08:44

Thankyou Allira.. very useful

Allira Fri 06-Dec-24 11:03:04

pascal30

Mt61

pascal30

whole oats with honey and milk cannot be harmful to children.
we had it every morning before school.. it's all the processed food with additives that should be avoided..

crumpets slathered with butter would be an occasional treat for me

Maybe with the honey (still sugar) & milk pumped full of chemicals 😩 Arla brand! I believe?

well we were lucky Mt61 my mum kept bees and we got our milk from a little local dairy (unpasteurised)..
I don't even know what Arla milk is..

Arla is a company with different brand names and suppliesdary products to supermarkets and other outlets.

There is controversy at the moment because Arla is supposedly trialling Boevar which is an additive to cattle feed which allegedly prevents methane emissions.
Apparently this chemical does not go through into milk or meat, so we are told.
Consumers will judge for themselves.

www.fwi.co.uk/business/markets-and-trends/dairy-markets/arla-faces-backlash-over-trials-with-methane-reducing-bovaer

Iam64 Fri 06-Dec-24 10:59:48

It isn’t porridge, it’s the ready made tubs which are full of sugar

pascal30 Fri 06-Dec-24 10:54:57

Mt61

pascal30

whole oats with honey and milk cannot be harmful to children.
we had it every morning before school.. it's all the processed food with additives that should be avoided..

crumpets slathered with butter would be an occasional treat for me

Maybe with the honey (still sugar) & milk pumped full of chemicals 😩 Arla brand! I believe?

well we were lucky Mt61 my mum kept bees and we got our milk from a little local dairy (unpasteurised)..
I don't even know what Arla milk is..

Allira Fri 06-Dec-24 10:47:53

Actually, I congratulate any parent getting even so much as a crumpet down a teenager in the mornings before school.
Although my DS was always ready for a cooked breakfast (not badger) after doing a paper round.

Allira Fri 06-Dec-24 10:43:54

They're surely a just a comfy treat once in a while plus they have the nutritional value of a dead badger.

Surely not, Ilovedogs22
Badgers are probably more nutritious than crumpets.
However, sourcing one might prove to be more difficult.

petal53 Fri 06-Dec-24 10:34:49

Incidentally, I don’t eat breakfast, but occasionally have porridge for lunch.

petal53 Fri 06-Dec-24 10:33:39

I don’t agree with taxing foods of any sort. Taxing foods won’t make a jot of difference, but on the other hand , I suppose the government of the day benefit from yet another source of income.

ronib Fri 06-Dec-24 10:33:36

Casdon my sister is definitely under 9 stone, paragon of exercise and healthy eating. And quite miserable too.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 06-Dec-24 10:14:42

We had porridge (no sugar added) with a handful of blueberries yesterday morning and have just enjoyed Burford Brown boiled eggs with crumpets (👋 EV) earlier. I’m not usually such a rebel.

Casdon Fri 06-Dec-24 10:12:03

I just wonder how many of us could put our hands on our hearts and say we eat healthily all the time? I’m not sure it’s got much to do with IQ, it is more to do with what tastes nice, what is cheap, and what is not too much effort to prepare. Hands up if you’re a 9 stone paragon of healthy eating and exercise virtue.

CariadAgain Fri 06-Dec-24 10:08:43

Ilovedogs22

Allsorts

I use wholegrain oats, no sugar. Its the ones with all the added sugar that's the problem. I also eat crumpets with butter on now and then and marmite. Its sugar thats the problem.
Headlines are misleading.

Hear,hear Allsorts.
It's not good old porridge oats that's the problemo! It's the ultra processed instant, pre-prepared sugary muck that health experts
regard as junk food. Also why would anyone give children crumpets for ruddy breakfast! They're surely a just a comfy treat once in a while plus they have the nutritional value of a dead badger. Why are people so stupid today? 😙

LOL - at the "Why are people so stupid today?".

Any time I think that = I remind myself that if the average IQ is 100 (as I recall) then someone has got to be lower than that level - as there are people above that level.

Ilovedogs22 Fri 06-Dec-24 09:55:30

Allsorts

I use wholegrain oats, no sugar. Its the ones with all the added sugar that's the problem. I also eat crumpets with butter on now and then and marmite. Its sugar thats the problem.
Headlines are misleading.

Hear,hear Allsorts.
It's not good old porridge oats that's the problemo! It's the ultra processed instant, pre-prepared sugary muck that health experts
regard as junk food. Also why would anyone give children crumpets for ruddy breakfast! They're surely a just a comfy treat once in a while plus they have the nutritional value of a dead badger. Why are people so stupid today? 😙

25Avalon Fri 06-Dec-24 09:46:46

vegansrock

Cows are routinely fed all sorts of hormones, antibiotics etc which all get processed in the cow.

This is why I only buy organic cows milk. Not only that but I make sure it is unhomogenised.

CariadAgain Fri 06-Dec-24 08:28:01

ronib

After my flu jab, I was assailed by the advanced nurse practitioner to spell out how many units of alcohol a day I had and did I smoke. The conversation didn’t go very well and she declined to take my blood pressure at the end of it.
The government presumably is trying to crack down on obesity- another example of good intentions but poor delivery. Shall eat organic porridge every day from now on.

That was rather ridiculous of her not to take your blood pressure - just b*tchiness for the sake of it. As if it matters if she personally won't do her job properly - as some chemists have pharmacists that will take one's blood pressure if requested anyway.

Add that anyone can readily buy a blood pressure monitor off Amazon if they want to monitor their own blood pressure anyway - as I know when I got told I had high blood pressure (ie by people using the lowered modern measurements that they go by these days). As I recall - the one I bought was around £40/£50 - so I guess it's useful to have one in and do the job for oneself. Though I don't do it that often these days - after having got it down to 1970s acceptable levels and now it's down to those altered modern levels.

Right - time for my organic porridge with organic milk (ie defo not Arla then) and whatever fruit I decide to put on top of it today. It's very clear that producers are popping up one by one on my Facebook feed to say "Not us - we're nothing to do with Arla and we don't feed that particular junk to our cows".

Casdon Fri 06-Dec-24 08:13:40

The thing is, we all know these things are not good for our health, but we are in denial. I like crumpets, but I realise they have very little nutritional value. Most people find it very difficult to eat completely healthily, and it’s made harder when you see foods which are designed to be delicious but have no health benefits being advertised (and even harder for children). It’s a minefield.

vegansrock Fri 06-Dec-24 07:33:23

Cows are routinely fed all sorts of hormones, antibiotics etc which all get processed in the cow.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 06-Dec-24 07:21:23

I am trying to avoid all things dairy/beef which have been fed on feed stuff containing Bovaer ( chemical to stop cows farting, curtesy of Bill Gates)

I think this is far more dangerous than porridge with sugar/honey or crumpets with butter.

Allsorts Fri 06-Dec-24 07:20:32

I use wholegrain oats, no sugar. Its the ones with all the added sugar that's the problem. I also eat crumpets with butter on now and then and marmite. Its sugar thats the problem.
Headlines are misleading.

vegansrock Fri 06-Dec-24 06:57:53

Plain Porridge made with oats has not been labelled junk food- I wish people wouldn’t believe ridiculous headlines. They mean the flavoured, ultra processed sugar laden instant sachets you can buy. The diet in the U.K. is comparatively really poor - relying heavily on ultra processed foods. Compared with the average diet in France and Italy where UHPF consumption is far lower and there is a higher consumption of fresh food. Trying to challenge this culture of poor nutrition should be encouraged.

ronib Fri 06-Dec-24 06:53:02

After my flu jab, I was assailed by the advanced nurse practitioner to spell out how many units of alcohol a day I had and did I smoke. The conversation didn’t go very well and she declined to take my blood pressure at the end of it.
The government presumably is trying to crack down on obesity- another example of good intentions but poor delivery. Shall eat organic porridge every day from now on.

Redhead56 Fri 06-Dec-24 00:19:36

Crumpets are a very rare treat for me just one with butter and a thin slick of Marmite I don’t consider that bad either.

Redhead56 Fri 06-Dec-24 00:14:23

I eat porridge a few days a week made with just water how can that be considered junk food such a ridiculous comment!

MissAdventure Thu 05-Dec-24 22:42:28

I've found a cauliflower cheese soup at Asda, and that's the current favourite.

I had sweet something or other with spiced carrot, I think, tonight.
It might be the bread that's the culprit tonight.