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Basic food hygiene?

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fancythat Mon 13-Oct-25 16:40:57

Yesterday evening I was in a Motorway Service Station.
I dont intend to say which one.

I had a McDonalds[I can hear the cries from some from here!].

It was one of those places where you could see the, behind the scene staff, quite easily.
None at all were wearing any gloves, from what I saw.

I had assumed the days of that happening in the Uk were well gone. [unless a place gets shut down for that].

Am I out of touch with reality? Or were they?

twiglet77 Tue 14-Oct-25 09:47:39

I’d rather hands washed properly than gloves that often aren’t washed at all.

fancythat Tue 14-Oct-25 09:18:54

^ I always wore gloves when handling food as well as frequently washing my hands^

That's the spirit! That's more like it.

What happens when[not just asking you] things are dropped on floor?
Hands to pick it up I suppose?
Then hand washing?

And what about going to the toilet?

I did the same as I guess most people did, when the thing about bar nuts came out.
Not sure I have touched them since,.

Are they even a thing now.

Sago Tue 14-Oct-25 09:17:56

I was in a queue waiting for an ice cream, the server wore gloves, she served a customer his ice cream, popped a flake on with her gloved hand, she then took a bank note from him and handed him the change, all with gloves on.

I didn’t have an ice cream.

keepingquiet Tue 14-Oct-25 09:03:08

I believe soap and water to be the most under rated materials on the planet...

Septimia Tue 14-Oct-25 08:58:01

I agree that wearing gloves doesn't that they haven't inadvertantly touched something.

I'd rather they used suitable implements for each type of food rather than hands.

But there's still no guarantee of no cross-contamination without diligence.

TheWeirdoAgain60 Tue 14-Oct-25 08:51:10

I detest MuckDonalds, KFC, etc. and won't have anything to do with any of them, but when I worked in cafes and restaurants, I always wore gloves when handling food as well as frequently washing my hands!

escaped Tue 14-Oct-25 08:43:48

I suppose technically it was “clean dirt” as it had been through the dishwasher!🤮 I am so glad I wear my specs all the time.

Always with roast dinners or similar I check the handles of my cutlery after the dishwasher. Inevitably bits of cabbage or leek stick to them. Perhaps I should put them in handles upright??

Grammaretto Tue 14-Oct-25 08:39:08

Ofcourse Granmarderby
Now with the dubious advantage of knowing the regulations I see these being broken frequently.
My own kitchen would fail an inspection at the first hurdle shock but it's things like not proper labelling of ingredients/allergens which could be lethal rather than the odd hair in the soup which bother me.

Granmarderby10 Tue 14-Oct-25 03:35:05

There are not enough Environmental Health officers to react to all reports that require investigation immediately let alone enough to dedicate to unannounced inspections should the need arise.
I’m not sure there ever has been enough of them.
There are more food establishments everywhere now than ever in cities and towns but fewer resources to monitor whether they are complying with food hygiene laws.
The other day I handed two food encrusted dirty forks from the clean cutlery container back to staff at a well respected bakery shops’ cafe’.

I suppose technically it was “clean dirt” as it had been through the dishwasher!🤮 I am so glad I wear my specs all the time.

Grammaretto Tue 14-Oct-25 01:17:13

I passed my level 2 food handling course recently, on-line through virtual college.
I'm a volunteer in a community café so must have this certificate.
I can confirm that gloves are not recommended but frequent handwashing in a separate washbasin is.

There are, and should be, unannounced inspections by Environmental Health officers.

NotSpaghetti Mon 13-Oct-25 22:39:33

Yes, butterandjam
A new pair every action it seems to me!

Allira Mon 13-Oct-25 22:22:22

Really interesting Maybee!

MayBee70 Mon 13-Oct-25 20:56:25

This is it. I’m always losing it and finding it again, though.

Allira Mon 13-Oct-25 20:10:43

Interesting, I never knew that!

Allira Mon 13-Oct-25 20:09:28

MayBee70

Allira

BlueBelle

I don’t think the wearing of gloves make any difference at all
MacDonalds do some lovely vegi wraps they are not all bad by any means

They could touch a raw burger then touch the salad even if wearing gloves.

I do wear gloves in the kitchen occasionally, if I don't want the smell of onions or garlic to linger on my hands (it does, even if they're washed afterwards) or cutting up raw chicken. But then they go straight in the bin.

I’ve got what looks like a stainless steel bar of soap that is supposed to remove onion smell from hands. Not sure if it works as I still make sure that I don’t do any other sort of cooking if I’m cutting onions.

If I'm crocheting or knitting afterwards, I'm always conscious in case my hands smell of onions.

Off to investigate your soap 🙂

MayBee70 Mon 13-Oct-25 19:05:24

Allira

BlueBelle

I don’t think the wearing of gloves make any difference at all
MacDonalds do some lovely vegi wraps they are not all bad by any means

They could touch a raw burger then touch the salad even if wearing gloves.

I do wear gloves in the kitchen occasionally, if I don't want the smell of onions or garlic to linger on my hands (it does, even if they're washed afterwards) or cutting up raw chicken. But then they go straight in the bin.

I’ve got what looks like a stainless steel bar of soap that is supposed to remove onion smell from hands. Not sure if it works as I still make sure that I don’t do any other sort of cooking if I’m cutting onions.

Romola Mon 13-Oct-25 19:00:02

Hand sanitiser for care in hospital, I get that. But wouldn't the sanitiser give the food a funny taste?

butterandjam Mon 13-Oct-25 18:38:49

NotSpaghetti

I am not a glove fan BTW but I note that my mother-in-law's part time carer puts them on after washing her hands to prepare snacks for my mother-in-law - even if she's just putting a biscuit on a plate.

Extra caution, possibly because carers also handle bodies, wee, poo, dressings etc.

NotSpaghetti Mon 13-Oct-25 18:27:09

fancythat I rejected cookies!
Apologies.

Visgir1 Mon 13-Oct-25 18:21:37

On TV this lunchtime there was a report that a Hospital in the South of England, is taking away all sinks from an ITU, as hand washing isn't adequate to kill germs. They will just all use Hand Sanitiser, they are now thinking of doing it through out the Hospital.

So perhaps that's what they use?

escaped Mon 13-Oct-25 18:14:28

But chefs are artisans, those who flip burgers are not.
Chefs need bare hands to touch food to check the texture and to arrange delicate foods on the plate. They rarely use gloves when using sharp knives. If hygiene is good, why would they need to wear gloves?
I guess handling raw burgers then touching the lettuce or relish could be seen as an issue in the likes of McDonald's. I've never been overly worried in service stations, airports, train stations though, and more importantly never been ill.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 13-Oct-25 18:00:37

fancythat

Septimia

If you watch some cookery programmes you can see that chefs and other staff in the kitchens of posh restaurants frequently put the food on plates with their bare hands. They might wash their hands but there's no guarantee that they haven't just touched something accidentally. It rather puts me off...

You can tell I have never worked in a commercial kitchen or watched many cookery programmes.

That would put me off too.

I somehow seem to remember a Uk law that people had to wear gloves for food preparation.
Maybe I have got that totally wrong.

There is no requirement by law to wear gloves for food preparation or handling in the U.K. as I posted up thread.

There is a requirement to wash hands frequently to stop cross contamination.

Allira Mon 13-Oct-25 17:55:59

BlueBelle

I don’t think the wearing of gloves make any difference at all
MacDonalds do some lovely vegi wraps they are not all bad by any means

They could touch a raw burger then touch the salad even if wearing gloves.

I do wear gloves in the kitchen occasionally, if I don't want the smell of onions or garlic to linger on my hands (it does, even if they're washed afterwards) or cutting up raw chicken. But then they go straight in the bin.

fancythat Mon 13-Oct-25 17:54:28

Going to the toilet with gloves on? For example?

aggie Mon 13-Oct-25 17:53:18

Sorry I meant that to agree with Sunami