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Can you name this plant - and help with infestation.

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Coolgran65 Thu 15-Sept-16 09:31:01

This plant belongs to my ddil and I've agreed to look after it, probably for the next year. They've just moved and have no room for it at present. The plant belonged to ddil's grandmother so she is very fond of it.

It came to me 10 days ago, 90% covered in brown crispy leaves and bone dry. The brown leaves have been brushed off and it's had a good soaking.

Can anyone tell me what this plant is so I can look up how best to care for it, it has tiny pretty pink flowers and large sharp thorns. Looks like a desert plant.

However, it is infested with tiny midge like flies, they are all through the soil. I've sprayed with Raid and also with Ultimate Bug Killer. This gets rid of what is obvious at the time but they just keep coming. It is in my porch and the window is closed so they are not coming in from outside. I'm pretty sure they came to me with the plant as we didn't have these midge flies beforehand. I try and clear these flies several times each day. It was all cleared last night and this morning there were again 100s all over plant and the window sill.

I can't keep open the door to the porch in case they come into the house.

I may have to change the soil/compost but doubt that this would get rid of them all?

My next step could be the local garden centre.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

kittylester Thu 15-Sept-16 09:39:08

It's a Crown of Thorns. I have 2 but I'm obviously doing something wrong as mine have loads of leaves and I know they are meant to look like yours.

I can't help with the infestation.

Elegran Thu 15-Sept-16 09:51:29

I don't recognise the plant, but the infestation sounds like fungus gnats, which live in the dead vegetable matter in the soil around the plant. If it is a well-established infestation, there will be eggs and larvae in the soil, which replace the adults in a few days. You have to keep repeating the treatment until there are none left.

I have seen various cures, but it may take a while. Scrape off as much surface compost as you can and replace it. Spray the leaves with a bug-killer for indoor plants so that the plant itself draws it into its system and does its bit. Feed and water the plant so that it gets stronger, and don't let it dry out again - they prefer dry compost.

Put some left-over wine (drink the rest!) into a shallow dish and stand it nearby. The adults will go there to drink and drown. I have tried this and caught lots of them, and didn't see any more for some weeks, so it seems to work - but I repeated it as soon as I saw another.

I have also seen it recommended that you put a cut slice of raw potato on top of the compost, and the grubs creep up into it. The potato can be thrown away and a new slice laid down. I didn't find this worked, but maybe mine were fussy eaters.

kittylester Thu 15-Sept-16 10:00:33

I've just looked it up - its called euphorbia milii.

Wobblybits Thu 15-Sept-16 10:04:00

WE have suffered these in house plants a few times, very annoying. I have used Provado as a dip in the same way that i would for vine weevil. Dunk the whole pot for a few minutes.

annodomini Thu 15-Sept-16 10:04:33

We called it Christ-thorn in Kenya, and I heard it called Judas thorn elsewhere in Africa. Those thorns could be death to tyres!

Nelliemoser Thu 15-Sept-16 10:07:25

I would cut it back if it has been stressed by drought. Then look after it.
Do be careful!
Euphorbias often exude a sticky white sap when cut. This sap can cause some people serious skin irritation.

kittylester Thu 15-Sept-16 10:15:09

I wouldn't it back unless you really have to - it takes years to get to that size!

Coolgran65 Thu 15-Sept-16 10:50:24

I'd be reluctant to cut it back as it isn't mine.

Think I'll love bomb it. Lift it out of the pot and knock (gently) off what soil I can, add fresh compost and then try all the tips given above.
No wine, but I guess sherry or Tia Maria might be worth a try.

Thank you everyone, your responses have been really helpful.

kittylester Thu 15-Sept-16 10:54:43

I don't think it will be lacking water as they are desert plants as you said.

Coolgran65 Thu 15-Sept-16 10:57:16

Harvey's Bristol Cream in situ !!

Elegran Thu 15-Sept-16 11:16:09

Do post a photo of the drunken revellers you catch!

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 15-Sept-16 12:30:12

Yes. I would take it out of the pot, wash it off thoroughly including the roots, then replant it in fresh damp compost. Then shut in another room so the little buggers can't re-colonise it.

Eloethan Thu 15-Sept-16 15:22:56

Those irritating little flies are why I don't like house plants.

kittylester Thu 15-Sept-16 15:44:53

I don't get little flies on my house plants #famouslastwords!

Anya Thu 15-Sept-16 16:09:08

Elegran just googled the phrase 'left-over wine' ...no hits. Was it a typo?

kittylester Thu 15-Sept-16 17:11:07

grin

Coolgran65 Thu 15-Sept-16 17:13:48

I've only got one house plant of my own, its' a 5' tall grape ivy and stands on the top of my nest of tables to give more height. I love it, wash it every 6 months. Pic attached.

Never had little flies before, that's why I believe they came with the plant when I was given it to look after.

Elegran - Update on drunken revellers: Only 2 bodies in 6 hours. DH reckons they don't party till later smile

I like the sound of Jings suggestion. Washing it, roots and all and fresh compost. Could lay it on its side on the garden table to work at it.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 15-Sept-16 17:20:22

I've had those little flies in the past. It's why I don't go in for so many houseplants anymore. They are hard to get rid of for any length of time.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 15-Sept-16 17:24:30

Google says it likes cactus/succulents compost. And some Babybio would encourage it.

Off to the garden centre with you. grin

thatbags Thu 15-Sept-16 17:32:37

How do you wash your plant, coolgran?

NfkDumpling Thu 15-Sept-16 17:46:31

I have tried jings suggestion of washing off the whole plant outside under the hose. A Hoya it was, all sticky and covered in little flies coming out of the soil - but much easier to handle. I then left it outside for the summer in it's new compost to give it time to recover and for any stray flies inside to die off.

It then thrived and grew too big and I got rid of it. I only now have a very productive lemon tree indoors which is happy with dry soil. I wonder if it's damp soil which brings the flies in?

kittylester Thu 15-Sept-16 18:25:14

There is a specific cacti/succulent Baby Bio.

Coolgran65 Thu 15-Sept-16 20:04:03

NfkDumpling Regarding damp soil, it was bone dry when it came to me 10 days ago. The flies definitely aren't 'coming in', it is in the porch and the window is shut. The flies appeared at the same time as the plant. We don't even use our front door - everyone uses the back door. My dil who asked me to look after it knows nothing about plants and it sat in her porch for several years with next to no watering. I have yet to ask her about her experience with the flies (if any). Will do so soonest.

thatbags It takes a good 60 minutes to wash my grape ivy. I stand it in front of me while watching something decent on tv. A packet of baby wipes or damp kitchen roll. Then I work my way methodically around the plant up and down, and around, leaf by leaf. Using a wipe to take off any dust and bin it when it's too grubby. At the same time removing any old/crispy leaves that might lurk towards the centre. There's a great satisfaction when it is all cleaned. Finish with a spray or two of leaf shine.

Jings I had a wee Google and saw that it liked cacti compost.

Kitty I've only got tomato food which I use for pretty much everything. Yep, a visit to the garden centre for food and compost.

Esspee Fri 16-Sept-16 10:02:27

If you ask your question in the Gardener's World forum you will get very helpful responses from the lovely people on there.