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Lawn help please

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Nonnie Sat 31-Mar-18 11:34:36

Last year was very stressful and the garden didn't get the attention it deserved. There was so much moss that about a month ago I used feed and weed stuff, watched the brown patches appear, discovered the scarifier was broken, bought a new one and used it. You can imagine the result. We had also had the drains replaced so that has added to the problem.

I bought grass seed which was apparently coated with something to make it grow and have watched the pigeons thoroughly enjoy eating it all. Never had a pigeon problem before.

There is no sign of any of the new grass growing although the old grass is. Please advise the best way to get the rather large areas of lawn to grow. I need a quick result as we are putting the house on the market!


midgey Sat 31-Mar-18 11:38:23

Trouble is Nonnie that it is just too cold for the seeds to germinate. If you can hang on for a little bit of warmth you may have better luck. If all else fail you could paint the mud green!! Good luck with your house sale, a nice buyer will understand about the lawn.

Luckygirl Sat 31-Mar-18 11:39:48

I take the view that if there is a flat space that is roughly green then that is a lawn as far as I am concerned! grin

I had a friend whose lawn was regularly serviced by a lawn company and it was immaculate - how silly it looked in the depths of the countryside, with ancient hedges and pasture all around.

Moocow Sat 31-Mar-18 11:54:54

nonnie I have been going through the same thing with our lawn. luckygirl I've been telling myself that for a few years then it detriorated even more so now is rapidly looking less and less like a flat green space grin

Situpstraight Sat 31-Mar-18 12:04:41

Nonnie we have the same problem, moss everywhere, we used a lawn treatment company, but when I asked him if his treatment was permanent, he said Nope, so we stopped him and the moss came back, we then did the same as you and spread lawn seed, fed the pigeons too.

Nice lawn though for a while, this year we are back to moss again.

I’ve given up, it’s green, all that time, effort and money and as we are surrounded by fields anyway it’s time for me to quit and accept it.

Nonnie Sat 31-Mar-18 12:26:34

Thanks everyone. Midgey I'll do that, hope the weather warms up soon so I can get on with it.

J52 Sat 31-Mar-18 12:45:17

Moss is very difficult to eradicate because the conditions that cause it are the problem. Often they are overhanging trees. In our last garden we just learnt to live with it.
Monty Don suggests growing the grass seed in pots, indoors or in the greenhouse. When it’s established, patch the bare bits. Another suggestion, I’ve heard is to mix the seed with compost before spreading.this apparently deters the birds.

Nelliemoser Sat 31-Mar-18 12:49:50

I don't worry about the state of the lawn as long as OH mows it. If it looks green it's grass.

NotAGran55 Sat 31-Mar-18 13:45:02

The quickest way to get a new lawn is to have it returfed .

Situpstraight Sat 31-Mar-18 14:13:11

You’re right Notagran, but we have the problem that J52 posted, lots of trees around our perimeter, so eventually I think even turf would go mossy. But it’s Green..... unless we get a hot summer and then, like everyone else’s it’s brown.

durhamjen Sat 31-Mar-18 14:19:35

Nyger seed grows quickly enough and looks green very quickly. Goldfinches like it. I put it on the patches that appear under the beech hedge where nothing else will grow.

Nonnie Sat 31-Mar-18 14:32:42

The moss is not a problem now, its all gone. Its the gaps it has left and the damage from the drains being replaced which is the problem.

Thanks J52 we have lots of compost in our bin so I could mix that in but it is full of worms, wouldn't that attract birds?

J52 Sat 31-Mar-18 15:04:33

I always used bought compost ☹️.
After reseeding I put strings of cooking foil bows, zigzagging across the seeded bits. It did look pretty! Also was a deterrent to the birds and squirrels.
But whatever I did the moss always came back.

durhamjen Sat 31-Mar-18 15:23:06

Get your grandkids to pick the worms out, Nonnie. They'll love being told they can do that by a grownup.

Nonnie Sat 31-Mar-18 16:21:40

If only I could DJ unfortunately we are not allowed to see them.

farview Sat 31-Mar-18 16:37:45


durhamjen Sat 31-Mar-18 22:45:07

Sorry about that, Nonnie. Hadn't realised.

Farmor15 Sat 31-Mar-18 23:19:08

I had the same problem last year after trying to get rid of moss and grass seed didn’t seem to be growing ( and it was later in year, so warm). I thought there might be something wrong with seed, so planted a bit in compost in a shallow tray. It came up quite quickly so I took clumps and scattered them in bare patches. It was a bit like turf.

It seemed to work, so I planted more seed- used the trays meat often comes in. The seed germinated much more quickly in the trays, kept in a warmish place.

Of course the moss came back! I was happy to have anything green, but the moss had got so thick it made mowing difficult. There’s a new product, Mo-Bacter, which I might try. It has bacteria which are supposed to digest moss and it doesn’t go black.

Jalima1108 Sat 31-Mar-18 23:21:22

Can you buy some cheap green netting and spread over it, lifting it up on canes?

Be careful, though, I did this with my strawberries and a blackbird got underneath somehow, even though it was pinned down, and I had to go and rescue her.

Otherwise would it be too expensive to turf it - you may be more likely to get your asking price if if looks smart?

Nonnie Sun 01-Apr-18 09:58:55

Thanks for all the advice. I'm a bit reluctant to use turf because we did that in previous homes and found so many weeds it seemed like harder work than if I had just tried to improve the lawn.

I think I'll wait until the lawn needs mowing which will be an indication that it is warmer. Then I'll seed it again and put some spikes and stick in the lawn with tinfoil as someone suggested to try to persuade the dratted pigeons to go away.

GrandmaMoira Sun 01-Apr-18 10:24:43

When my garden was re-turfed it transformed the garden and made more difference than anything else could. If you want it to look good for selling, I would recommend it.

humptydumpty Sun 01-Apr-18 12:39:51

Maybe cover with astroturf Nonnie grin

gillybob Sun 01-Apr-18 12:50:26

I started a thread on this very subject last year Nonnie might be worth looking back. I recall some excellent advice .

Not sure how to link it but the thread was called My Poor Lawn and it was last year sometime in the gardening forum .

Nonnie Sun 01-Apr-18 16:28:19

I have found your thread Gilly but it won't open. Thanks anyway.

Tomorrow I'm off to the cheap shop which sells all sorts of things I don't normally want to see if they have some sort of netting and/or pegs/spikes I can put in the garden and I have a whole roll of unused turkey foil which I can cut up and stick on whatever I buy. I think the estate agents may be amused when they come to quote but I will take it all up before the photos are taken.

gillybob Sun 01-Apr-18 16:29:50

Oh I managed to open it earlier Nonnie what a shame . I got some really good advice as I recall .