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Shez1955 Tue 09-Apr-19 15:28:17

My daughter has just moved into a new house. Large rear garden that has been turfed. The lawn slopes down on the back and on one side (sunniest part). The other two sides are quite shady. I want to move 2 shrubs from her old garden to plant on sunny side. Any advice on preparing planting space for these? Also suggestions for two trees to plant in the back border.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Tue 09-Apr-19 15:30:38

I would suggest digging holes in the appropriate spaces and perhaps forking in some manure first. Spread the roots out and keep moist especially during the first two years until it settles in.

FlexibleFriend Tue 09-Apr-19 15:45:02

^what she said

MrsJamJam Tue 09-Apr-19 17:14:32

Watch all the gardening programmes for good ideas and advice. Look around locally to see what grows best. Think about your bees and butterflies.

littleflo Wed 10-Apr-19 08:53:46

I would dig a hole much deeper and wider than you need. Builders are notorious for leaving rubble near the surface of gardens. By digging a larger hole you will see if there is any rubble or masonry is there to obstruct the roots. Fill the hole with compost before you plant so that the roots have something to feed on when they start spreading.

Shez1955 Wed 10-Apr-19 09:29:23

Thanks all for the advice.
Off to dig some holes!

Teetime Wed 10-Apr-19 09:55:56

We moved into this house when it was new 8 years ago. It had a good sized garden that was already turfed right up to the fences. Digging beds was very hard. The plot had been police houses and there was next to no goodness in the soil so it took a long while to work in some compost and it was quite expensive. The first thing we did therefore was buy a compost bin and make our own compost. It does take time of course but the garden has come on leaps and bounds with our own compost.

Gelisajams Wed 10-Apr-19 10:15:05

When you remove the shrubs from the old house keep as big a root ball as you can and keep it moist at all times. Plant in a big hole and enrich the soil with horse manure or soil conditioner. Keep well watered once you have planted them for the rest of the year. Those big flexible buckets are good for transporting shrubs.
As for trees, small ornamental trees such as Rowans (berries can be pink white yellow or red), white barked birch, various cherries or fruit trees all have blossom then the bonus of fruit. The RHS will have suggestions for your specific situation.

gillybob Wed 10-Apr-19 10:27:41

Builders are notorious for leaving rubble near the surface of gardens

You can say that again littleflo Our sloping "garden" was left in a terrible state by the builders who had basically fitted poor quality turf over a fine sprinkling of soil. When we removed it we found the garden to be just mounds of dolomite, broken bricks, stones and hardened cement and concrete. It took us months of hard work and tons and tons of top soil to get it anywhere near a garden. We have created tiers and installed a path to make up for the quite steep slope and as Teetime did, we started our own compost bin and have gradually (over the 8 years we have lived here) improved the soil. Its now pretty good.

Telly Wed 10-Apr-19 10:28:26

Not sure that this is a good time to move shrubs? I would buy new ones they will soon get going.

icanhandthemback Wed 10-Apr-19 10:51:23

I think it depends on what shrubs they are to how well they will move.

Annaram1 Wed 10-Apr-19 10:59:46

For trees I would suggest magnolias. but plant them away from the fence as they can grow quite big and I have to have mine trimmed every year. They are beautiful though.
or fruit trees which h are either the tall thin variety or the
espaliered ones. Good luck, its all hard work but worth it.

sarahellenwhitney Wed 10-Apr-19 11:12:54

Shez1955
Go online .My garden was reared on these 'sites' as we are all in different locations, different climates ,and differing soil types.
What these locations don't know about horticulture is not worth knowing.

Shez1955 Wed 10-Apr-19 11:43:36

Thanks all. Been out to buy manure and top soil. Just about to find out about the soil.

missdeke Wed 10-Apr-19 12:15:34

Most important is to dig a deeper hole than you need and fork the compost into the loose soil at the bottom. The roots need to go downwards into the soil to stabilise the plant, if you put compost in a shallow hole the roots will go outwards and make the shrubs liable to rock in the wind.

Also the type of compost, manure etc will depend on the type of shrub

oldgaijin Wed 10-Apr-19 12:44:23

For colour, I would recommend a crab apple...beautiful spring blossom, wonderful autumn colour and you can make jelly with the crabs. Good for wild life too.

4allweknow Wed 10-Apr-19 13:38:19

Depending on size of garden Alamanchia trees are good for small, they can be tall and columnar or have a spreading canopy. Rowans are also good for small and large as are cherry again columnar or spreading canopies.

Witzend Wed 10-Apr-19 13:41:40

Loads of water until they're well established. At least that's what my keen-gardener mother always said.

Hazeld Wed 10-Apr-19 14:17:44

In the old days when I used to watch Gardeners World, I remember Alan Titchmarch saying 'Regardless of what some gardeners say, I believe you can move anything at any time of year so long as you keep it well watered for the first few months' so have always kept that in mind and we haven't had any problems so far. I have never moved plants in the height of summer, I think that would be silly but apart from then, have move shrubs in Spring and Summer. So if you want to, I should do it and just make sure you keep it well watered. Good luck.

Shez1955 Wed 10-Apr-19 15:15:42

Thanks for the tree suggestions.
The soil is heavy clay but thankfully not much builders rubble.
First transplant completed and the Viburnum looks happy ? I’ll keep it watered.

Grammaretto Wed 10-Apr-19 15:43:36

What they said but I always like a lawn surrounded by shrubs.
I'm quite envious. I like the idea of planning a garden from scratch.
When we last did it on heavy clay soil, We planted a crab apple tree and a lilac. We planted roses near the house which did very well and a mix of easy to grow flowering shrubs along the fence.
Weigela, forsythia, philadelphus, deutzia etc. I'm sure your local nursery will help you spend your money and find plants which thrive.

Our garden is 600ft up, shaded by hills, acid soil so I marvel that anything grows.
I would second the compost in tonnes. Can you buy topsoil?

breeze Wed 10-Apr-19 15:54:07

Buy a soil tester kit before moving them to test if lime or acid. If they are happily growing in lime they may not like new soil if it's different.

When I moved here many years ago I was young and stupid and spent a fortune on rhodedendrons and azaleas that promptly dropped dead as we are on chalk here so lime. Expensive mistake.

SpringyChicken Wed 10-Apr-19 16:53:14

I’d plant self pollinating fruit trees. The blossom in spring is beautiful. If you choose from a specialist grower, the choice is vast. Usually, the trees are grafted. By choosing an appropriate rootstock, you’ll have trees of a suitable height for the garden.

GinJeannie Wed 10-Apr-19 19:49:34

Our local Council recycling site has a huge compost area....u can fill your sacks /bags for free. Worth enquiring if you have similar in your area? We're WALES!

jacq10 Wed 10-Apr-19 20:36:21

Reading this post brought back memories of when we moved into our family home. Wanting to widen the borders to get in some shrubs I had to use a pick! It was good for the waistline but hard going!! The lumps of concrete were unbelievable and large stones as well. I had to wait for DH to come home so we could lift them together but I persevered and ended up with the garden I wanted. One bit of advice I was given, and have passed on, was to walk around the local area and see what was growing well in the neighbourhood and go for the same genus of plants or shrubs.