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Weed removal….organically ?

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Shinamae Sat 17-Jul-21 14:34:39

I have let my grey slate patio get over run with weeds I’m afraid, we’ll they are in the grouting, what grouting is actually left! I have read that vinegar and salt will kill the weeds, I definitely don’t want to use chemicals as it’s a wildlife garden and I have frogs and hedgehogs visiting regularly. If a salt and vinegar solution is the way to go should it be applied at night? Thanks in anticipation..

grandtanteJE65 Sun 18-Jul-21 11:14:56

I would definitely prefer a pressure washer to a weed burner any day of the week.

You shouldn't use a weed burner in dry weather and the gas is heavy to transport, plus should be stored carefuly.

Argos stocks various reasonably priced pressure washers. I was unlucky with a Karcher model that broke down the second time we used it, so can't advise it.

Shinamae Sun 18-Jul-21 11:09:32

Esspee

OP you asked for organic solutions, are advised that salt and vinegar are toxic to wildlife then you keep justifying your decision to use them. Trust those of us who kindly gave of our time to advise you.
Water will have just spread the "treatment" you have applied thereby poisoning even more of your garden to wildlife.

And I appreciate the advice but not the way you give it,very patronising!!” I’m beginning to think you are being deliberately obtuse“ how very rude!!

Esspee Sun 18-Jul-21 10:11:58

OP you asked for organic solutions, are advised that salt and vinegar are toxic to wildlife then you keep justifying your decision to use them. Trust those of us who kindly gave of our time to advise you.
Water will have just spread the "treatment" you have applied thereby poisoning even more of your garden to wildlife.

Shinamae Sun 18-Jul-21 09:32:39

Katie59

Use a hoe or spade to cut the top off the weeds before any other treatment then use salt to kill the roots. Gives a much tidier patio, rather than dying weeds.

Thanks Katie ??

Newquay Sun 18-Jul-21 09:08:30

We have one of those weed knife things-very effective. I agree about ivy-cut it at the base and keep at it!

Katie59 Sun 18-Jul-21 09:03:07

Use a hoe or spade to cut the top off the weeds before any other treatment then use salt to kill the roots. Gives a much tidier patio, rather than dying weeds.

CafeAuLait Sun 18-Jul-21 02:33:26

I didn't fnid boiling water worked. I'm not a fan of the salt and vinegar method either due to the effect on wildlife that might encounter it. We lifted our patio stones and put down sheeting before replacing the patio stones. That keeps the weeds at bay. You can also pay someone to do it every now and then.

Savvy Sun 18-Jul-21 02:31:40

My gardener uses a strimmer to take my weeds off to path level, and then a stiff garden brush to remove anything left. Yes they grow again, but they are easily dealt with.

welbeck Sun 18-Jul-21 01:58:10

too late for the neighbour's ivy.
it's long since made it's way across this garden and strangled the far fence, our fence.
it's a dashed nuisance, but next door don't care, no hope of them reigning it in, or preferably, eradicating it.
i think it ought to be banned in any joined houses.
by its nature it doesn't stay put.
why i don't like the name too, connotations, clinging, destructive, poison.

SueDonim Sat 17-Jul-21 23:46:00

Sorry, Polarbear I didn’t think! Chuckies, as Esspee says, are small stones or gravel. It’s a colloquial term, universally used in this area. smile

Shinamae Sat 17-Jul-21 23:29:29

Esspee

Because something is sold as a weed killer or to put on your fish and chips doesn’t matter. They are both toxic chemicals to wildlife. Rock salt and table salt are chemically the same thing.
If you put salt down then hose it off it doesn’t magically disappear. It is simply spread elsewhere.
I’m beginning to think you are being deliberately obtuse.

And I’m beginning to think you are using your “superior knowledge” to try and belittle me!! I have hosed the salt off of my small patio it is gone on a part where there are pebbles and grass and I have diluted it with a lot of water!!! I know my garden you do not so you’re spiky comments mean nothing to me..

Esspee Sat 17-Jul-21 23:08:01

Because something is sold as a weed killer or to put on your fish and chips doesn’t matter. They are both toxic chemicals to wildlife. Rock salt and table salt are chemically the same thing.
If you put salt down then hose it off it doesn’t magically disappear. It is simply spread elsewhere.
I’m beginning to think you are being deliberately obtuse.

Callistemon Sat 17-Jul-21 23:05:44

I bought an electric one for DH but he's not keen on it.

I do weed the back patio (sometimes) but we have a large block drive full of weeds (they've appeared again in a few weeks) so we do need to do something and I've downloaded the link to the grouting stuff.

Shinamae Sat 17-Jul-21 23:02:09

Callistemon

BlueBelle

What’s wrong with a hoe that’s how I get rid of them

If it's a small patio and you have time, it's quite therapeutic as well as organic to weed it by hand.
Most weeds seem to come out easily if you don't yank them, just persuade them.

Bluebelle DH wrecked my lovely hoe (it could have been vintage!) by doing that.

Callistemon,I have tried to do it by hand believe me but they are very deeply rooted….Also the contraption I bought and described up thread was no good either. I have a wildlife garden and would do nothing to harm the wildlife, the salt has been down a few hours now and shortly I am going to hose it away…

Esspee Sat 17-Jul-21 23:01:46

Polarbear2 chuckies are small stones used on driveways or paths.

Callistemon Sat 17-Jul-21 22:58:08

BlueBelle

What’s wrong with a hoe that’s how I get rid of them

If it's a small patio and you have time, it's quite therapeutic as well as organic to weed it by hand.
Most weeds seem to come out easily if you don't yank them, just persuade them.

Bluebelle DH wrecked my lovely hoe (it could have been vintage!) by doing that.

Shinamae Sat 17-Jul-21 22:53:53

Esspee

Shinamae

Thanks for all your advice it is only a very small patio probably 16‘ x 8, I have attempted to get them out with a long handled contraption that has looks like brass wire bristles on the end, hasn’t really worked… I will definitely try the boiling water and the salt and vinegar which will disappear after a little while. I am just adverse to using chemicals…???

Salt is sodium chloride, vinegar is acetic acid. Both are chemicals.

I know that, I was talking about commercial products!!

Esspee Sat 17-Jul-21 22:51:37

Shinamae

Thanks for all your advice it is only a very small patio probably 16‘ x 8, I have attempted to get them out with a long handled contraption that has looks like brass wire bristles on the end, hasn’t really worked… I will definitely try the boiling water and the salt and vinegar which will disappear after a little while. I am just adverse to using chemicals…???

Salt is sodium chloride, vinegar is acetic acid. Both are chemicals.

Shinamae Sat 17-Jul-21 22:46:20

Shinamae

MoorlandMooner

Oh my goodness that photo makes me so sad. Poor old nature.

What poor creatures, wild or domestic, are going to come to drink at that bowl on a boiling hot night and trail their feet and bodies through all that salt.

This is the RSPCA saying how dangerous salt is for animals.

All for a few weeds that would have taken 10 minutes to weed out by hand.

www.rspca.org.uk/documents/1494939/7712578/Rock+salt+poisoning+in+pets+%28PDF+101KB%29.pdf/663009e5-a4c0-44ed-1c88-a06376ccfd86?t=1559139782482#:~:text=Even%20a%20small%20amount%20of,of%20convulsions%20and%20kidney%20damage.

The salt is going to be washed away with a hosepipe in about an hours time

And it is not rocksalt it is table salt

Shinamae Sat 17-Jul-21 22:45:05

MoorlandMooner

Oh my goodness that photo makes me so sad. Poor old nature.

What poor creatures, wild or domestic, are going to come to drink at that bowl on a boiling hot night and trail their feet and bodies through all that salt.

This is the RSPCA saying how dangerous salt is for animals.

All for a few weeds that would have taken 10 minutes to weed out by hand.

www.rspca.org.uk/documents/1494939/7712578/Rock+salt+poisoning+in+pets+%28PDF+101KB%29.pdf/663009e5-a4c0-44ed-1c88-a06376ccfd86?t=1559139782482#:~:text=Even%20a%20small%20amount%20of,of%20convulsions%20and%20kidney%20damage.

The salt is going to be washed away with a hosepipe in about an hours time

Polarbear2 Sat 17-Jul-21 21:35:46

SueDonim

We had more chuckies put on our driveway last summer as they’d gradually disappeared over the years. The drive was weedy and mossy so the chap laying down the chuckies used salt & vinegar in water to prepare it. He simply didn’t like paying high prices for chemicals!

I had my doubts but it worked. Being a driveway it doesn’t have much in the way of wildlife on it and in any case, as we are in Scotland, the rain soon dilutes it.

Ok I’m going to ask… what’s a chuckie??? ?‍♀️?

MoorlandMooner Sat 17-Jul-21 21:17:16

Oh my goodness that photo makes me so sad. Poor old nature.

What poor creatures, wild or domestic, are going to come to drink at that bowl on a boiling hot night and trail their feet and bodies through all that salt.

This is the RSPCA saying how dangerous salt is for animals.

All for a few weeds that would have taken 10 minutes to weed out by hand.

www.rspca.org.uk/documents/1494939/7712578/Rock+salt+poisoning+in+pets+%28PDF+101KB%29.pdf/663009e5-a4c0-44ed-1c88-a06376ccfd86?t=1559139782482#:~:text=Even%20a%20small%20amount%20of,of%20convulsions%20and%20kidney%20damage.

Shinamae Sat 17-Jul-21 20:55:01

Salt and vinegar,so we’ll see…

Shinamae Sat 17-Jul-21 18:17:19

Casdon

The problem with the solutions is that you’ll have to keep on weeding, which I decided is too much effort for me, life’s too short to weed between the paving slabs when there’s so much else to do in the garden.
Once you’ve weeded, try getting some Easy Joint, which is a paving joint compound that you brush in. It works really well.

I’m going right to Amazon now to order some easy joint, thank you ?

Shinamae Sat 17-Jul-21 18:16:19

MoorlandMooner

Oh well, I tried. Your garden looks very pretty Shinamae. A real wildlife haven.

Thank you…?