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I want a little shed on my allotment

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Lathyrus3 Sun 01-Jun-25 12:53:08

Does anybody know of a shed that comes in panels that will fit in a largish family car?

I want to put a shed up on my allotment.

Local shed firms won’t erect one of their sheds on the allotment because I can’t provide a concrete base.

Online shed firms will deliver to my house but not to the allotment so I would need to transport it there.

So what I need is a shed that comes in bits small enough to fit in the car - which I think means the sides in two horizontal pieces as I can’t fit 6ft height into my car.

I’ve tried local ‘handymen” the no job is too small type, but it isn’t a job they want.

I’m really stuck. Any suggestions gratefully received.

Caleo Thu 05-Jun-25 14:44:43

errata.
Cane screening. Panels.

Caleo Thu 05-Jun-25 14:42:28

If your priority is a private secure place to lie down in , and you would not be wanting to use it in wet weather, you could have six foot fence panels enclosing a nice space.Or you could even have a big enough fenced space for a wee two man tent, and a Keter box for your spade , fertiliser bottle, bag of compost, and fork. Fence panels although too big for your car, are normally put up by the fence people who sell them, as they need strong windproof posts.One of the panels can incorporate your padlocked gate.

You could do it cheaper by having screening which comes in rolls, instead of wooden panes. The can screening is rather nice, and you can also get willow screening. You do however need an able person to put in the posts, which in the case of screening should be wooden posts.

Crossstitchfan Wed 04-Jun-25 11:00:06

Sadgrandma

Lathyrus3
I hope you manage to get your shed but, when you do, just a word of warning, don’t leave any valuable tools in it. Sheds on our village allotments have been broken into several times and tools stolen so no one leaves anything of value there anymore. Best not to lock it either, if thieves can open the door and see there is nothing worth taking they will leave it alone. If they can’t they will break the door down. Perhaps check with other allotment holders to see if it has ever happened.

Am I missing the point here? What use is a shed you can’t keep things in? I’m thinking gardening tools, a seat, maybe little table etc. You surely can’t be suggesting that people going to their allotment have to carry all this with them each time?

Aldom Wed 04-Jun-25 10:52:17

When the hearse broke down outside the church, following a funeral, a friend of ours took the coffin to the cemetery in the back of his Volvo. grin

Katek Tue 03-Jun-25 22:19:39

What car do you have?? Generally if you recline back seat fully and the same with front passenger seat you should be able to slide sections of a Jeter shed down that side on the diagonal. It's amazing what you can fit in to a car with a bit of judicious jiggery pokery! I once moved a full size prop coffin (we were doing Oliver) in the back of a VW Polo praying I wouldn't meet a police car en route. Explain that!

Lathyrus3 Tue 03-Jun-25 19:59:27

H gnome that. I was on the wrong page.

Lathyrus3 Tue 03-Jun-25 19:58:17

There isn’t a committee. Just an owner.

Ziplok Tue 03-Jun-25 19:57:04

Feelingmyage55

Railway sleepers? They might be the answer. It also means your shed could be slightly off ground level. Our local sawmill used to supply these (but has closed down).
Do you have a men’s shed in your area? You need to find “someone who knows someone”.
Good luck and keep us/me updated. I am about to embark on a similar project but as it is for my own garden, I have some autonomy. Except for my mysoginistic neighbour. Do I take his views into consideration re location or keep myself happy?

Keep yourself happy. As long as it’s not impinging on his land/blocking a view, then don’t be dictated by him.

Lathyrus3 Tue 03-Jun-25 19:47:32

Definitely some possibilities here.

Thanks to everyone for taking an interest.

I’ll update you when I’ve actually achieved something🤣

Caleo Tue 03-Jun-25 19:35:06

What about an enclosed garden arbour? These come with seats as part of the deal, and you could nail a tarp to the front roof,, held rigid by tent pegs. Square tarps come with eyelet holes. My garden arbour has been in position for five or more years , the mattress and cushions stay on the seat all winter and have never got wet, or if they get a few spots of rain they dry easily.
Use a Keter box or similar for tools, and it makes a nice table with the lid shut. You can also get a Keter type box to be used as a garden seat with arms and a back.

Caleo Tue 03-Jun-25 19:20:44

www.ryman.co.uk/garden-storage-tent-bike-shed-with-metal-frame-in-grey-1

Caleo Tue 03-Jun-25 19:16:13

Lathyrus, have you thought of a tarpaulin shed? If tarp material would be permitted on your allotment it would provide you with a cosy place to lounge, certainly big tarp sheds are available, and make a cuppa, as well as store tools.

karmalady Tue 03-Jun-25 18:38:12

Katek

Have a look at Keter sheds, small, lightweight, flat packed but only need a screwdriver to assemble. They come with a base - you can get away with standing it on a piece of tarpaulin.

you can get ground anchors to help bolt these units down, there can be a lot of directional force against any side of any unit

I wouldn`t be allowed a keter shed, wrong colour, the owners of our private allotment site stipulated a certain shade of green, it is in the contract

The keter bases are good and strong, one of my `store it out` is full of heavy logs, a tonne of them

Casdon Tue 03-Jun-25 18:37:17

Lathyrus3

It ve looked at Ketter and other Fiat packs. What I can’t get past is they all have the 5ft 9 panels and 6ft+ door (which is the height obviously) and I can’t get that in my car.

I was hoping that somewhere there would be a shed where the door and panels came in two bits that joined if you see what I mean. Like a stable door.

Or an offbeat idea like the chicken shed or the tepee that I could make work.

I’m not sure that what you’re looking for is on the marketplace? If you are practically inclined, have a family member who is, or could find a handyman, another option would be a pallet shed. There are loads of ideas on Pinterest. Pallet wood would be easy to transfer to site in your car.

Lathyrus3 Tue 03-Jun-25 18:24:39

Honestly - auto correct.

I think you can make sense of it though🙄

Lathyrus3 Tue 03-Jun-25 18:23:29

It ve looked at Ketter and other Fiat packs. What I can’t get past is they all have the 5ft 9 panels and 6ft+ door (which is the height obviously) and I can’t get that in my car.

I was hoping that somewhere there would be a shed where the door and panels came in two bits that joined if you see what I mean. Like a stable door.

Or an offbeat idea like the chicken shed or the tepee that I could make work.

Katek Tue 03-Jun-25 18:16:34

Have a look at Keter sheds, small, lightweight, flat packed but only need a screwdriver to assemble. They come with a base - you can get away with standing it on a piece of tarpaulin.

bikergran Tue 03-Jun-25 17:02:57

Not sure if anyone has said (sorry not read through all the posts)

But we bought a metal shed from Argos many yrs ago, yes there were a 1,000 nuts n bolts (well it seemed that way)

it is lightweight and sat on paving slabs, it has sliding doors, no window but you can certainly sit in it.

It has survived all the storms and is still standing upright.

It came in flat packed box, it must have fit in my small car with seats down. wasn't heavy I put it up on my own, its has separate panels, just needed two hands right at the end to put the some little bolts through and someone hold them at the other side whilst I put the nuts on. Maybe check argos , you can check the weight as well.

Lathyrus3 Tue 03-Jun-25 16:33:57

butterandjam

Our allotment is on privately owned land ; the land owner specifies no permanent concrete installed. But loose slabs (under a shed) are perfectly removable therefore permitted.
So THAT is the issue you need to pursue with the allotment committee/or the owner. Be polite, co-operative, and do it in writing.

Allotments function solely on the application of communal knowledge, understanding, communication, co-operation, skills, muscle and mutual support. You need to adopt that allotment mindset; of self help, and communal can-do.

Forget hiring commercial companies/ paying a little man/ buying stuff off the shelf. That doesn't happen in Allotments.

You're now in the world of Freecycle, improvisation, adaptation, making-do, taking risks, gambling on weather, tears, disasters, surprises, lots of fun and satisfaction.

That sounds lovely, but nothing like the collection of plots where I have got mine. There isn’t anything communal there, just people working on their own plots. Some say hello, but most dont.

So I don’t think there’s any possibility of any sort of help.

And if I’m honest a massive part of the enjoyment for me is space and time on my own🙄😳

butterandjam Tue 03-Jun-25 14:06:43

Our allotment is on privately owned land ; the land owner specifies no permanent concrete installed. But loose slabs (under a shed) are perfectly removable therefore permitted.
So THAT is the issue you need to pursue with the allotment committee/or the owner. Be polite, co-operative, and do it in writing.

Allotments function solely on the application of communal knowledge, understanding, communication, co-operation, skills, muscle and mutual support. You need to adopt that allotment mindset; of self help, and communal can-do.

Forget hiring commercial companies/ paying a little man/ buying stuff off the shelf. That doesn't happen in Allotments.

You're now in the world of Freecycle, improvisation, adaptation, making-do, taking risks, gambling on weather, tears, disasters, surprises, lots of fun and satisfaction.

karmalady Tue 03-Jun-25 13:55:14

Lathyrus, some taller plants would give you shade, check you don`t have a height restriction, ours is 2m and perhaps a bench with outdoor cushions in a storage box so you could stretch out while lying down. Or a zero gravity lounge chair, the range has one in textoline that folds. £40

Need to think outside the box here. I keep my outdoor zero gravity chair in my keter store-it-out at home, there is plenty of space for other stuff. I have a pram umbrella which clips on behind my head and gives me shade

Whatever storage you do get, you need to bolt it down or think of some other way to secure it from fierce winds

Sarnia Tue 03-Jun-25 10:31:22

Wayfair do a range of easy assembly sheds with a floor panel so no need for a concrete base. My DIL has one and I believe she said it just clicked together. She has had it a few years and still looks like new.

Lathyrus3 Tue 03-Jun-25 10:21:52

Actually maybe I could put up a little tent for the Summer. It would give some shade. It would have to be quite low because it’s a windy site. But I could lie down in it when I wanted a rest.

What was I thinking of? The site is a jungle and I’m quite old with a bit of a heart problem 😱 But I do like a project🤣🤣🤣🤣

loopyloo Tue 03-Jun-25 10:17:05

Could you build a teepee?
Or my South African friend built a hut thing covered with sweet peas.
Will look up what she called it.
Would look so romantic and you could have a chair in it.

Lathyrus3 Tue 03-Jun-25 10:12:03

Thank you all for your thoughts and contributions.

I know I’m in a bit of a pickle because the allotments are privately owned, so the owner can make any conditions they like, so some suggestions won’t work for me, even though they are good ones.

It’s hard to believe that I can’t interest any odd job man or shed firm in putting up a shed for me! I guess the complications of the site put them off.

I really need to go and measure up the interior of the car to the millimetre to see exactly what I can fit in.

It’s quite a new car and I discovered yesterday that its failsafe systems mean the engine won’t start if the the tailgate is open! Know I’ll have to ploughthrough the 600 page manual to see if it’s possible to turn that feature off

I thought it would be so simple🤣🤣🤷🏽‍♀️