Gransnet forums

Genealogy/memories

Memories of Halloween

(38 Posts)
wisewoman Sat 06-Oct-12 10:07:47

A post on another thread about pumpkins made me think about how Americanised our celebrations have become. When I was a wee girl we hollowed out a turnip for halloween and put a candle inside it. It was very hard work and usually my dad did the hard bits. We went round our friends houses in small groups all dressed up in costumes we had made ourselves and had to sing a song or tell a joke or recite a poem in each house before we were given a few sweeties to put in our bag. We practised for ages before the big day. Times have changed so much with "Trick or Treat" and the expectation of money rather than sweets or nuts, not to mention the very expensive dressing up clothes. Was the turnip just a scottish thing? How did others enjoy Halloween?

Granny23 Wed 31-Oct-12 22:30:16

Baubles - Coulter's Candy was our signature tune, many moons ago, when I was one third of a folk trio called the 'Bawbees'. As a bawbee = an old halfpenny, three bawbees collectively are 'No worth tuppence'.grin

Glad to hear better news re your DGD2 and her cat/sister.smile

annodomini Wed 31-Oct-12 22:00:45

Picture arrived on Facebook. GC in Halloween garb made of bin bags. GS appears to be a zombie and I think GD is some kind of witch.

baubles Wed 31-Oct-12 21:48:49

Haha love that they did their 'turn' in the bathroom smile That sounds like a great day. A colleague of mine sings Coulters Candy whenever she comes into my office hmm good wee song though.

The little one has been seen by a paediatrician at last. Medicines prescribed, so fingers crossed for a speedy recovery.

Her older sister (2 and a half) dressed as a cat for her nursery party, lots of fun by all accounts.

Granny23 Wed 31-Oct-12 21:31:58

Hi Baubles We have had a lovely day. We picked up DGD1 from school and popped into the ASDA cafe for a quick bite before her swimming lesson, to find to our surprise that the cafe was entirely Hallowe'en themed with all the staff in costumes, masks to colour in, free cakes and very generous goody bags for each child. After tea we went back to see her, transformed into Princess Leia from Star Wars, give us an excellent performance of a poem, a song and a string of jokes from her joke book. She got her reward of nuts, apples and sweets and went off with her Mummy to call at the nearest, 'ready primed' neighbours asking 'Do you want any Guisers?'

We went on to see DGS and DGD2, or should I say Obi Wan Knobi and Tigger, do their party pieces. 3yr old Tigger reassured me, whispering 'don't be frightened Granny, it's only me' then prefaced her all singing, all dancing rendition of 'Coulter's Candy' with a lengthy explanation as to why she was Tigger tonight - apparantly she and her brother were now much too big for their Batman and Robin costumes. They had just returned, with their battery powered, Daddy made, turnip lantern, laden with goodies from a guising expedition which included having to perform in the bathroom for two of their wee friends who were having their bath when the guisers called. grin

By next year you will have your own wee guiser, no doubt dressed in a pumpkin suit, to entertain you - hope she is keeping better now.

baubles Wed 31-Oct-12 20:50:45

How did the guising go granny23 ?

Anno I'd forgotten about the chair/fork method, that brought back memories. We were once given a pomegranate by a neighbour instead of the usual apples. It was the first time I'd seen one and had NO idea what to do with it smile

nanaej Wed 31-Oct-12 19:56:02

We had a big event at my Quaker boarding school in the North East in the early 60s which was a long established tradition: Swedes/turnips hollowed and faces made & lit with a candle, played nelson's eye ( finding grapes in jelly) Bobbing for apples , catching a doughnut (hanging on string) and eating a square of chocolate balanced on top of a mountain of flour.. a messy and fun event.
I have just cleared up here after the 4 DGC were here for tea, dressed up, faces painted, bobbed for apples, made and iced hallowe'en biscuits and made a ghoulish faces on the plate out of the sausages, mash, broccoli, carrots and pumpkin! Chocolate dipped apples and the biscuits for pud! To end the evening they all went outside rang the bell. They told us hilarious jokes in return for some festive sweets! All harmless fun!

Anne58 Wed 31-Oct-12 19:53:38

Not much happened for Halloween in Worcestershire where I grew up, but I do remember being frightened to go to bed on Halloween.

Nelliemoser Wed 31-Oct-12 19:41:55

anno So its no good just blaming the Americans for it then. wink

What did the Scottish Presbyterians think of it? I cant imagine them approving at all!

annodomini Wed 31-Oct-12 16:39:47

It was always a Scottish tradition, Nelliemoser.

Nelliemoser Wed 31-Oct-12 16:25:37

When I was young and living in the East Midlands and then Bristol there was almost no celebration of Halloween whatsoever.

Where did all the rest of you spooks live? smile

annodomini Wed 31-Oct-12 16:24:41

Granny23, it's so good to know that 'guising' survives despite its transatlantic transmogrification into 'trick or treat'. As children we always went round the neighbours and various relatives, saying, 'please for our Halloween', getting sweets, nuts and small coins in return for saying or singing our party pieces. Then there was 'dooking' for apples. We had an old zinc tub which was filled with water and apples. A chair was set beside it and we had to lean over the back of the chair with a fork in our mouth, then drop it into the water to spear an apple! And the treacle scones, dipped in black treacle, hanging on strings and we had to try to eat them without using our hands. Lovely and messy. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be!

kittylester Wed 31-Oct-12 15:48:57

I can't come to the party - babysitting. But have a wine or winewine for me as today was my Dad's birthday.

I quite enjoy the children coming to the door unless it's the same ones who usually sing one line of a carol and then knock on the door for money. angry

jeni Wed 31-Oct-12 15:26:01

What time tonight for the party?

Granny23 Wed 31-Oct-12 14:40:02

Off tonight to the DGC's homes to see them guising because weather is so foul they will only be going out the back door with turnip lanterns and round to 'chap' at the front. Then we will go through the ritual of astonishment that they have called, shock wondering who they are under the disguises, enjoying their performance and rewarding them with apples, nuts and sweets. At least a fourth generation tradition in our family. smile

Nonu Wed 31-Oct-12 14:27:54

Happy Halloween to all . smile

feetlebaum Wed 31-Oct-12 14:23:33

Very different from the old days - in fact so different that I never knew of it being celebrated until I was in my thirties. Forty years on I still can't be bothered with it! It's Scottish I am reliably informed... not that that is against it.

vampirequeen Sun 07-Oct-12 15:41:02

I'll come as George Elliot. I love the fact she broke with convention, lived in sin and then when her partner died went on to marry her toyboy.

jeni Sun 07-Oct-12 14:38:23

High gate cemetery it is!
Dress code famous people who are buried there?
Shall I start a new thread?

vampirequeen Sun 07-Oct-12 14:06:49

Dad used to hollow out a turnip for us and mum cooked the bits so nothing was wasted.

I hate the new Americanised event.

I'll pop along on my broomstick to where ever you choose for a get together.

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Sun 07-Oct-12 10:36:26

<butts in> If it's Highgate Cemetery I'm in!

Ana Sun 07-Oct-12 10:04:35

Didn't you suggest Highgate Cemetery a while ago, jeni?

absentgrana Sun 07-Oct-12 10:01:12

Buckinghamshire somewhere, I think jeni. Would it have been West Wycombe?

I think you should leave the bats alone. Use your own blood.

jeni Sat 06-Oct-12 22:00:38

Where are we going this year? I thought, how about the 'hellfire caves' but I can't remember where they are?
Can anyone? I'm referring to the caves used by lord Dashwood? For his 'hellfire club' should be spooky enough.
If anyone knows, can they please supply the GPS co-ordinates for sat nav equipped broomsticks?

If anyone is interested in our 2nd Halloween do, please sign the list below in bats blood!

I will then set up a new thread.

goldengirl Sat 06-Oct-12 21:49:20

We didn't celebrate Hallowe'en at all, if I remember correctly. Our house was spooky enough grin. Our current had a ghost when we first moved in, but he seems to have gone now.

Marelli Sat 06-Oct-12 21:45:05

grin!!