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Irish passport as a Brexit protest

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Grammaretto Mon 23-May-22 18:01:02

Has anyone applied for this and been successful?
I am considering applying. My DGF was Irish.

fancythat Wed 03-May-23 09:27:50

But they can do both. Surely?

Fleurpepper Wed 03-May-23 09:21:49

Urmstongran

I don’t see the point really.

I would have thought it is quite obvious.

I know many people who have done this- and I can't blame them. But I was really really annoyed at people I know who voted for Brexit- and now have opted out of the consequences! Hypocrites in the extreme!

Grantanow Wed 03-May-23 09:10:51

My OH got an Irish passport after Brexit but I'm waiting for Yorkshire to declare independence.

Sago Mon 24-Oct-22 19:48:43

Good luck, it may take a while be patient!

Razzamatazz Mon 24-Oct-22 16:59:21

I've finally got a copy of my Irish Grandmother's birth certificate. I used this website.

www2.hse.ie/services/births-deaths-and-marriages/order/birth-certificate/

Razzamatazz Sat 08-Oct-22 20:59:03

I've started trying to find my Irish grandmother's birth certificate again, so I can register on the Foreign Birth Register. Not having much luck so far!

Grammaretto Thu 26-May-22 21:54:52

Yes Shandy. It is a muddle but it must be possible to prove I and my siblings are eligible. We will give it a try. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
My DGM was a refugee and arrived in this country with nothing. Her husband, my Irish DGF, is buried in Burma. She is the only one of my DGP who is buried in Britain.

That must have been so shocking for you to come across 10/12 yr olds learning how to use guns.
I have never been to Myanmar.

Shandy57 Thu 26-May-22 17:54:29

So sorry Grammaretto, that will be a very hard one to trace. God help those people in Sri Lanka at the moment. I got married in the Seychelles in 1987 and people were 'disappearing' then. We wandered into a training camp in the mountains by accident, scores of ten/twelve year olds practising with guns.

I've been to northern Thailand but didn't get as far as Myanmar, I was volunteering at Save Elephant Foundation Elephant Sanctuary up a mountain in the jungle. The owner, Lek Chaillert, supports a school and various people in Myanmar.

Grammaretto Thu 26-May-22 13:27:58

No she was born in Burma/Myanmar.
Either she never had a birth cert or it was lost when the country was invaded. It was a problem for her but she carried a declaration and managed to get a British passport despite not being British and not living here for very long.

Shandy57 Thu 26-May-22 13:13:56

Where was your DM born Grammaretto - Ireland? The Irish site seems quite comprehensive, about 25 euros to get a copy?

Grammaretto Thu 26-May-22 09:15:03

Ah Shandy I think that was what put me off last time apart from not finding my DM birth cert. sad

Shandy57 Thu 26-May-22 09:13:37

The Foreign Births Register has a two year wait, for anyone going down this route.

Grammaretto Thu 26-May-22 09:12:50

I am glad I began this thread and feel much more qualified now!
I shall let you know how it goes.

I did not know that a Gt grandparent's birth was also permissible Paddyann. If so my DC would like to know that especially as one works in Ireland. Do you really have to go to the country to access the birth certificate?
I know DGF is in the church register, all in Latin. Civil records began in 1845. I see if I pay £13 for a day pass I can access the records
rootsireland.ie/ifhf/subscribe.php
and can see he is in the index at
www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

Sago Thu 26-May-22 09:08:01

PaddyAnne Just double check your eligibility before you spend too much time and money, I don’t think as a great grandchild it’s so easy.

I have cut and pasted the following;

If you or your parent were born on the island of Ireland before 2005, you are an Irish citizen. You can apply for an Irish passport without applying for citizenship.
If your Irish parent was born outside of Ireland, you will need to register via the Foreign Birth Registration.
If one of your grandparents was born in Ireland, but neither of your parents was born in Ireland, you may become an Irish citizen. You’ll need to have your birth registered in the Foreign Births Register.
If one of your great-grandparents was born in Ireland, but none of their descendants were, you can apply for fast-track naturalization after 3 years of residence.

Petera Thu 26-May-22 07:02:31

LinkyPinky

* Well one of that number is Mr Johnson senior who has just gone for a French passport because his mother was French, he of course voted for Brexit, what a two faced *
This is incorrect, alig99. Stanley Jihnson voted Remain.

True, but in 2017 he publicly stated that he had changed his mind

LinkyPinky Thu 26-May-22 06:58:39

* Well one of that number is Mr Johnson senior who has just gone for a French passport because his mother was French, he of course voted for Brexit, what a two faced *
This is incorrect, alig99. Stanley Jihnson voted Remain.

Willow68 Thu 26-May-22 06:40:37

Sago

Willow68 Your parent or grandparent must have been BORN in Ireland before 2005.
If it’s your parent who is Irish you can apply immediately for a passport, if it’s your grandparent you must go on the foreign births register first.
I provided a link earlier in the thread.

Thank you , yes I saw the link I just found it a bit confusing, thanks to this thread and your input, I will now look into this… thank you for your replies ?

GrauntyHelen Thu 26-May-22 02:16:31

Sadly I'm one generation out of being able to do this My mother could have but didn't if she had I could

paddyann54 Wed 25-May-22 23:45:26

leeds 22 you can have an Irish passport with Irish great grandparents.In fact we're heading for Donegal to try to source my GGP's birth certificates for that reason .I have a whole squad of Irish ancestors so heres hoping

Sago Wed 25-May-22 22:22:58

Willow68 Your parent or grandparent must have been BORN in Ireland before 2005.
If it’s your parent who is Irish you can apply immediately for a passport, if it’s your grandparent you must go on the foreign births register first.
I provided a link earlier in the thread.

Willow68 Wed 25-May-22 20:20:55

Looking at this now as I had no idea of this. Have I understood correctly, that grandparent had to live in Ireland at my time of birth? My Nan moved to England in her 20’s . She is actually still alive and is now 96 ?

SparklyGrandma Wed 25-May-22 19:21:26

Sago I rang up the Cork Register Office and had my grandfathers birth certificate within 2 weeks.

Sloegin Wed 25-May-22 19:15:33

My husband and I, both born in N.ireland always had British passports but both got Irish ones following Brexit. One of our children and her daughter have got them too and our other children and grandchildren plan to apply for them. Our youngest child and grandchildren were born in England so application slightly more complicated for them. They feel that they may be particularly useful for the grandchildren for ease of travel and educational opportunities in Europe.

Sago Wed 25-May-22 19:11:14

Willow68 It applies to the whole of Ireland

welbeck Wed 25-May-22 18:49:06

Magrithea

Our younger son lives and works in Ireland and has applied but Covid has slowed everything down! His paternal GF was born in what is now Northern Ireland but before that happened so he qualifies. He is doing it because Brexit might make it difficult for him to carry on working there

it is being born on the island of ireland which qualifies, not whether it was before or after 1922; doesn't matter.
there seems to be some confusion on this point.
a person born today in northern ireland can apply for an irish passport.
everyone born in northern ireland can have 2 passports.