I never signed up for this!

roses if I do sneak in a Mars bar, promise not to tell Mamie or I'll be drummed off the low carb thread

Another friend on the same wavelength

I think it helps that many of us know each other pretty well now on GN and share the same sense of humour and understand our good-natured 'moans' ....and yes, very much tongue in cheek.

I'd be horrified if any of my lovely family thought that we wouldn't be there to help them in tne same way they are always there for us

Anya I remove my Gransnet tin hat and salute you.... Your efforts are above and beyond the call of duty, award yourself a Mars Bar. You will be mentioned in dispatches.

? Tea-towels - that made me smile Anya

Whilst clearing my mum's house recently - I found umpteen of these - mostly bought my me to say thank you for helping me with something or other.....
She clearly cherished them because they were still un-used and in perfect condition.....❤️

I know how much you love your family and I also know that this is a very tongue-in-cheek post - thank you for bringing a smile to my face....?

Got it in one Swanny

Ha Ha watermeadow Your post reminds me of three years ago when the DGSs went off for their annual two weeks with their dad. DD got a last minute offer to go to Italy with a friend but couldn't get her two dogs into kennels at peak time and short notice.

That meant I spent two weeks looking after her dogs and cat, watering her plants, doing the laundry that she somehow didn't have time to do before she packed and picking up the boys from the airport when they came back.

What did I get for my troubles? A nice bottle of wine? Some extra extra virgin olive oil or some sought after balsamic vinegar?

No. I got a bloody fridge magnet.

embo and spooky I read Anya's opening post as just telling her friends what was happening in her life at the moment, not as a moan. This is chat we share on gransnet with other grandparents who do the same and understand the things we do for our families to help them. If it was a heartfelt moan or complaint it would have been posted under a serious topic such as (AIBU) Am I Being Unreasonable

(that was in relation to *spooky's post)

I've said on here before, I'm not overly-fussed at having the grandkids to stay here, leave alone any pets! So far this holiday I seem to have got away with it.

I'd never put my dogs in kennels, I expect my family to look after my pets as I do for them. This is what families are for.
So I dog and cat sit frequently (at least while they're away I don't have to do childcare) I trail up and down the hills twice daily to feed cats, I have their dogs in my house, I tidy their houses, Hoover, do loads of washing, buy the cat food and litter which they've forgotten.
And in return... Oh, there was that occasion last year when someone came to let out my dogs one lunchtime. I haven't had a night away for 18 months.
Cynical? Me?

Stand in front of a mirror and practice saying no. The pets, like the children, are their responsibility. If you like, explain that it is too much for you, but you shouldn't have to explain.

Several years ago DD2 bought two rabbits for Granddaughter 1, they were to be house rabbits but one was much larger than the other, both turned out to be male and both fought each other so DH and I took the larger one. He (rabbit not DH) lives in a two storey, 4 room hutch behind the house with a large run attached (that I spent a whole day making) and he is out and about from 7am until I go to bed. Then DD2 and her DH went on holiday so we took in the little rabbit so I made another run at the side of the house. Then of course he never went home. Eventually a colleague of DD2 adopted him and has given him a warm welcome. The large rabbit is going strong. Rabbits can live up to 14 year so when I'm in well into my 70s I'll still be cleaning out a rabbit weekly, not what I signed up for! But I do love him (honestly).

I didn't get the "moany" message just someone sharing the fun and games , we all do that surely . Maybe some lovely people do just say "no " to Family , but most of us do it and a tiny grumble sort of lets off steam ?

I bet they would love to read how you feel and especially about how thrilled you are to be having them all over for a BBQ and having the grandchildren sleep over.

If you don't want to do something then don't do it. If you are happy to help then do it without moaning.

As someone else said, if it is such a burden then I'm sure they will find friends to help or make other arrangements.

And of course when they return I'll get my reward....more tea towels!

The vinegar trick......when introducing a new chicken into the coop/flock there can be trouble. All chuckle owners know this. My trick is to rub vinegar into the new chicken and pop her into the coop just before bedtime. Then all tne other chicken get the vinegar rub too and when it's dark I pop them in with her.

The theory is that they all smell alike (no new alien smells) and when they wake up in the morning they've sort of bonded. It doesn't always work, but happily it did last night.

embo I'm not actually moaning just sharing my life with my friends in GN. It seems that it's a fairly common ask.

My ex was looking after our daughter's cats and 2 hamsters. He had to clean the hamsters cages and 1 got out and ex assumed cat had caught it. Towards end of holiday, still no sign of hammy so ex bought another one to replace it. All was well until a few days after our daughter returned from holiday and the 'missing' hamster appeared as if by magic. It was unscathed from it's experience. Their 2 cats were elderly so may explain why they didn't catch hammy. Took some explaining as my ex hadn't confided in my daughter!!

We had an elderly neighbour and used to look after her beautiful white cat when she went away. A few years ago she had gone to the IOW for a few days and I found the poor car looking very ill and took him to the vet, who said it was terminal cancer and it would be best to put him to sleep. Fortunately I had her phone number on holiday and was able to ask her if it was OK and she was very sensible and said to go ahead as he was suffering. I felt terrible about it, but he had obviously been ill for a long time beforehand.

Oh Anya, I know just what you mean. I'm looking after four cats, three hamsters and a tankful of fish, not to mention four hanging baskets and about 50 potted plants, plus having to be there at specified times to receive deliveries, also await possible calls for a lift home from camping grandson. The cats never come in when called and the largest hamster bit me causing me to drip a trail of blood all over their bedroom floor, so that was a lovely clearing up job to do. I wouldn't mind so much if I was asked, but I'm always TOLD that I'm going to do it! Having protested once, I was told that they couldn't afford to put the cats in a cattery. What value does that put on my efforts ?!

If you're going to moan, just say no. They will no doubt get friends or neighbours to help out instead.

Yes Anya please tell us about the vinegar trick!

Driving over to feed DD's guinea pigs the other day I had to remember if I was going to the next village [DD's]to feed the piggies or the village after that [ex husbands]to feed his four feral cats. Next time she goes away I'm going to buy an indoor cage for them and they can live in my living room for a week and watch tv with me. Of course, like everyone else, my dog goes into kennels when we go away [which is hardly ever these days as I hate leaving her in kennels]. The upside is that I seem to have developed a nice relationship with the piggies, probably because I've been feeding them kale which I don't think they've had before. Although some sites say to feed it every day but another says only once a week, so I hope I haven't killed them.

Currently we are the only ones in our family with a pet - we have a dog. But our eldest GS is going to get a crested gecko for his birthday next month. I've told our daughter there is no way we are going to be looking after it when they go away! A corn snake was also discussed..... even worse!

We always looked after our granddaughter's hamster whilst she was away. Always worried it would 'pop off' before she came back.
One year we were left with eyedrops to administer. Thank goodness it didn't bite.

do tell me about the vinegar trick