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My Grandson is scared of me!

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Armoria Wed 12-Dec-18 15:24:36

It's getting to the point now that I really don't want to visit my son and daughter in law because my 22 month old grandson screams and cries and clings to his mum whenever I arrive. I have never ever done any single thing to warrant this and it is really upsetting.

I have a loving and close relationship to my daughter's children who are now 12 and 17 and when my son and his wife had a little boy in 2016 I could not have been more thrilled. We were not allowed to visit for the first week as they wanted to get established into a routine before having visits and also it had been sort of agreed that my daughter in law's parents should be the first to visit as the little chap was their first grandchild and we already had 2 so we had to wait until they had got round to visiting. I was a tad put out but went with it to keep the peace. When we did see him he was adorable but parents were suffering and sleep deprived so we used to take him out for a walk for a couple of hours or so to give them chance for a catch up nap and we absolutely loved the time we spent with him out and about.

When he was a few months old he had a stinking cold and reflux and at one point stopped breathing. They called an ambulance but after being checked out in hospital he was given the all clear and sent home. My son called me, he was overwhelmed and daughter in law a mess too so at 10.30pm we just got in the car and drove the 90mins to their house and spent the next 2 days and nights with them till they all settled. They are first time parents in their mid 30's, both professional people and absolutely no experience of children whatsoever. We continued to visit 2 days and nights a week until they seemed to be more confident and then we started stepping back to one a week. Also I am self employed and while I can juggle my work to fit in any family demands I cant always do so and there are periods where I have to work maybe everyday for a few weeks and I also help out my daughter with childcare for her youngest one and we do try to have a life of our own and go on holidays and breaks.

When little one was about 7 or 8 months old my daughter in law became very possessive, having now found her 'mummy feet' big time and she became his whole world whereas before she was happy to let us take him for walks, feed him, change him, cuddle him. If I were to even try to go near him or pick him up he would cry and rather than let me rock and shush him she would immediately take him off me, take him away and cuddle him. This went on for weeks and weeks and I eventually got so exasperated but tried not to let it show for sake of harmony but my son could see I was upset one time however they both said sorry if I was upset but they did not want HIM to be upset or cry and maybe it was because we didn't come over often enough and her parents were there every week or so. Her parents by the way are older and both retired, my son is also self employed so knows that when you have to work, you have to work. It got so bad that I would only have to walk in through the door and he would burst into tears, scream and hold out arms for his mum and she of course would always rescue him.

He's now nearly 2 and while he does not cry and scream so much he still does cry upon seeing me and will not go anywhere near me. Ive tried being casual about it, Ive tried holding something out for him to take, I've tried playing with him, talking to him but to no avail. If he is walking across the room and say I walk in he straight away turns around and goes back or does a massive detour to avoid me.

I am really at my wits end, He is OK with my husband, he goes up to him and holds his hand and plays cars with him. I want nothing more than to pick him up and give him a big sqwishy nanna kiss and cuddle, sing to him, read a book with him on my lap, take him for walks round the garden looking for bugs and things. All the stuff I did with my other grandchildren.

I have no idea what to do. I suspect it has been 'imprinted' on him that I am something to be scared of and to be mummy rescued from because of how each time he cried he was taken off me but I cannot say that without causing offence. He does not go to any kind of preschool, nursery or toddler group. My son works from home but little one is with mummy pretty much 24/7. They never come over to our house as a family. Son has visited just twice with him since he was born. We are expected to make the journey over to theirs which is 90 mins each way if traffic is OK. If she stays at her parents for a few days (they live about 13 miles away from us) she will meet us in town for lunch or an hour or so between his naps on one day. To be honest it's getting expensive for us to keep visiting especially as he has set naps so by the time we get there and he has been woken from his nap at the set time, we would have maybe a couple of hours with him before we would have to travel back as hubby and I dislike travelling along the country lanes in the dark so we end up getting a hotel so we can have longer with him.

It's got to the point where we just don't want to go but feel we have to to keep the peace and not be bad grandparents but how much longer can we keep doing this only for him to cry and rebuff my efforts. I am not a quitter and hate the idea of giving up on him but I'm absolutely at my wits end as to how to rectify the situation and get him to accept me. Sorry this is a long one but I am pretty desperate for any advice or help.

NormaF Thu 13-Dec-18 12:03:04

My DGD was exactly the same when she was a baby. We always put it down to the fact that I'm from Northern Ireland and she found my accent a bit strange. However, she is now 7 and we are the best of friends. I'm sure the problem will pass.

Fennel Thu 13-Dec-18 12:00:27

Another idea - husband and I visited a couple with a toddler (not a grandchild.)
Husband accidentally dropped a pile of books he was carrying, loud noise. After that the child screamed every time he saw my husband.
Maybe simplistic, but possible.

4allweknow Thu 13-Dec-18 11:59:41

I agree with you, your GS has adopted a way of reacting to you through habit. He screamed cried, ran away and his Mum "rescued" him now this is his normal reaction. Try a group a activity, even just going to a playpark where you can perhaps take a turn pushing a swing. You will not be touching GS and with his Mum being there he should feel safe. Activities where you are present but not physically handling may build his confidence in you. Is there any way he could be in the company of his cousins with you there? Seeing how they relate to you may also help. Situation must be horrible for you, can't imagine what it is like. Do hope you find a solution. No doubt it will take time so be patient.

Edithb Thu 13-Dec-18 11:53:02

I have a similar thing with the other grandparents always put first, down to the walls and fridge being plastered with photos of DiL’s family but absolutely none of us. They go on holiday with all her family at least three times a year and Christmas is always at one or other of her family’s homes, consequently we are driving up and down the M3 on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day as I also want to spend some time with my daughter’s family. I know we won’t be missed when we leave. It’s awful being made to feel second best but only being able to tell my friends and sister as I know DIL wouldn’t hesitate to cut us out if I said anything, she has already seen off all my son’s d friends and doesn’t like my daughter’s partner so it’s been a year since my two children met, despite living an hour apart.

ReadyMeals Thu 13-Dec-18 11:24:23

Don't take it personally, at 22 months children understand very little. It may be something as silly as a small blemish on your face that has upset him. My grandson when he was about the age yours is now suddenly became terrified of his great grandmother as he noticed her face was uneven after her stroke. With an older child you can explain it, a younger one just notices something "not quite right". Like someone said, don't approach him just let him watch you for a few visits until he realises everyone else is happy to interact with you in a friendly way, and he should start to relax.

goose1964 Thu 13-Dec-18 11:18:14

it's separation anxiety, mentally he thinks you're going to take his parents' (attention) away from him. He'll grow out of it soon. Meanwhile let him come to you

Annaram1 Thu 13-Dec-18 11:12:03

When my son was about 4 he suddenly started crying or even screaming whenever I smiled at him, and said I was a monster. I was very very upset and hurt by this. He was OK if I didn't smile.
As I was only ever a nice mummy to him I don't know why he did this. I was a young and even pretty woman then and looking at old photos I had a nice smile. (Modesty!)
After a couple of weeks he stopped this and became my loving son which he still is nearly 50 years later.

moorlikeit Thu 13-Dec-18 11:04:03

Why don't you "back off" oldbatty - you have said nothing remotely useful just hurtful.
I think Buffybee's post is right on the money. Follow her advice and your grandson will come round in time.
I wish you well Armoria.

Hm999 Thu 13-Dec-18 11:03:29

Armoria - hang in there. Don't try to engage him. It will pass. Maybe sit on the sofa away from him with an interesting toy, or an iPad with his favourite cartoon on or chocolate....
IMO you should talk strategy through with DiL, maybe on the phone.
Good luck

Granny23 Thu 13-Dec-18 11:03:20

Having read the OP and your subsequent posts it occurs to me that perhaps the wee chap, at a subconscious level, associates you with taking him away from Mummy. It seems that when you visited in earlier days you took him out and away from Mum to let her have a rest, which was a good thing to do, but perhaps when he sees you he feels that you have come to take him away again.

My DGS (but not the 2 DGDs) was stuck like a limpet to our DD when he was 2/3. Screamed, kicked and struggled when anyone, even his dad, tried to take him away. By the time he was 4 he was happy to be left at nursery or at our house, because he had grasped the idea that he would see Mum again soon.

moggie57 Thu 13-Dec-18 11:00:07

this is just a phase.my gd was the same .i would walk in the room and she would cry and make straight for mummy. i just used to sit on the chair/sofa and read a childs book out loud.she came to look and then when i looked up she went back to mummy's legs. totally ignoring gc. she was age 3 when she finally started to accompany her brother up to my home.. but it took time .and you must be patient they will do it in their own time. please refrain from wanting to hug him. some kids are different these days. different generation ,no children are alike....i know it hurts ,but just carrying on doing things ,.....it will come when he wants to hold your hand.

GrandmaPam Thu 13-Dec-18 10:54:38

I agree....'backing off' isn't an option if you love your grandchildren. Mine live 200 miles away so we don't see them as often as we'd like, but when we do, its intense and how I like it. My son and his partner know then can just hand the kids over and chill out for a few days - I would hate it any other way

Buffybee Thu 13-Dec-18 10:37:16

It will work out eventually Armoria, I'm sure.flowers

Febmummaofaboy Thu 13-Dec-18 10:35:11

It sounds as though in the past you took him off parents (becuase you were asked). But my Mum babysat neice and around 2 she screamed every time she saw her becuase she thought she would take her again? It's all better now but remember mum was upset about it. Am sure it's a phase and not the fact his parents have chosen not to take him to nursery and care for him themselves.

Armoria Thu 13-Dec-18 10:25:21

Thank you for all the positive and negative comments. The crying and screaming phase has been going on now for well over 12 months. I have pretty much tried a lot of your suggestions. I have tried ignoring him, I have tried playing with something across the room, I have not tried to pick him up or cuddle him or forced myself on him etc etc. Absolutely nothing works. Can't remember saying anything to upset Daughter in Law and if I had my son would have told me so in no uncertain terms.

By the looks of it I will just have to ride it out and hopefully one day he will come round.

Daddima Thu 13-Dec-18 10:21:10

I’d guess he’s picking up on the ‘vibe’ when his grandparents visit, and will also sense who’s tense and not being natural. I’d say you’ll have to let him come round in his own time, hard though that may be.

annodomini Thu 13-Dec-18 09:58:50

Your GS is most likely picking up vibes from his mum, who has long been reluctant for you to be closer than she likes. It would be sensible for you to allow him to see you on close, friendly terms with your DiL. Also, consider why it is that the child has no issue with your DH. How does he behave when he comes through the door of their house, compared to the way you greet them?

Armoria Thu 13-Dec-18 09:56:03

Oh if only I could but bringing him toys is now frowned upon as he has enough but if I do want to buy something I need to phone first and to let them know the details such as what it is, what size is it, if it's painted is it paint or stained and they will then give the ok or not. Books have to be new and again have to tell them the title to make sure it is suitable. No second hand soft toys either.

MawBroon Thu 13-Dec-18 08:59:49

Sorry, misread your post OB - ignore!

MawBroon Thu 13-Dec-18 08:59:17

I think this is DIL’s child oldBatty
The daughter’s children are older.

oldbatty Thu 13-Dec-18 08:40:46

I wonder if the Mum had a rough time , some depression perhaps, compounded by the fact that the little on was ill. It is terrifying. I think its great that Mum and child have a strong bond.

MawBroon Thu 13-Dec-18 08:22:27

How different our attitudes can be!
We all seem to agree this is likely to be a “phase”
We may also be thinking “Don’t fall into the trap of comparing access with the other GPS, that way madness lies.
But
If they only see GC once a week, I'm not surprised he is wary of them. Many children are wary of "strangers" at this age I am gobsmacked that agnurse can write “only” and “once a week” in the same sentence and then suggest the child regards granny as a “stranger” confused
Many of us see our grandchildren considerably less frequently, once a month if even, perhaps or at irregular intervals.
I think how the parents treat the grandparents makes a huge difference. If mummy is genuinely happy to see granny and grandpa the child will pick this up.
Littlest DGS(2 1/2) commented on the picture of my late DH I keep as my screensaver “That’s Granpop” he announced. “I love Granpop”sad
DH died a year ago when DGS was only 18 months and sadly was not able to spend as much time with the little fellow as we would have wished, but I give my DD credit for keeping his memory alive, albeit from pictures and perhaps anecdotes.

eazybee Thu 13-Dec-18 08:06:42

Stopping visiting won't help achieve an improvement in the relationship
Continue visiting, continue to be pleasant, take a back seat, and don't criticise his mother's parenting, even in your head.

Body language is far more powerful than you think, and young children are very sensitive to it.

Humbertbear Thu 13-Dec-18 07:52:31

My daughter was frightened of her GF . We think he used to hold her too close. When she was about 18 months old he bought her a wheelbarrow and they were firm friends ever after. My advice is to visit your daughter but try to ignore your GS. he will get used to you in time.

agnurse Thu 13-Dec-18 05:09:12

Madgran77

It sounds as if OP is saying "Well, the OTHER grands get x, y, and z. It's not FAAAAIR!!!" Really sounds quite childish. How many times did you all hear your children say, "But so-and-so gets to do/go to/wear/see/have x, y, and z. It's not FAAAAIR!" What was your response then?

If they only see GC once a week, I'm not surprised he is wary of them. Many children are wary of "strangers" at this age. I wonder if possibly OP is projecting her feelings about DIL onto GC.