The translation of the bible name 'Mary' was orginally meaning a 'maid' I understand i.e a young woman. No other connotations.
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Angela Rayner cleared by HMRC. What a coincidence!
Before I start, it's absolutely down to my daughter and son in law what they call their child. I'm very aware that there are whole areas of being a grandmother where I have to back off and not interfere. But I'm struggling with this more than is sensible and I need to get my head straight.
The name that they're planning on giving their daughter, due soon, I hate. And it's raised some eyebrows when my daughter's been asked by other family members, but again, people have tried to bite their tongue. I'm sorry that I'm not saying what it is, but I'm terrified that if my daughter googled it, that she'd find this post (so please don't speculate and type any guesses in your responses).
The connotations of the name (think stripper/prostitute) are such that I simply can't imagine using it to a tiny innocent baby. People's reaction has been to instantly ask what they'll call her for short - I imagine that like me, they're hoping they won't have to use the full name. But they don't have shortened version that they're considering.
Has anyone else felt this way? Do the connotations disappear once the baby 'becomes' their name? Has anyone actually been brave enough to say 'I think this is going to be a difficult name for your daughter to grow up with'? So far the connotations have been only lightly mentioned to them by another family member, and they've not seen a problem.
It doesn't help that some people, though privately thinking it's weird, have to their face said "oh what a lovely name!"
I suppose I want somebody brave (but not me) to be honest!
Anyway, do I try to bite the bullet and use the whole name, or shorten it myself into my pet name for her?
The translation of the bible name 'Mary' was orginally meaning a 'maid' I understand i.e a young woman. No other connotations.
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Didn't Jesus love prostitutes
Can't imagine it could be that bad.
Can you focus on how she is being brought up.
Yes, I can recall kids friend names I've hated (like Chardonnay) but then I feel it is my stuff and I need to get past it...?
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My GD's friend had a baby boy last Monday and named him Ronnie.
I am sure I will get used to it!!
Nannarose What a great song!
If you replace the first vowel of this proposed name with an 'a' - slightly lengthened in sound - you have the Iranian/Iraqui version.
And there was me thinking it was Jezebel ?
Well, I never liked "Archie" to tell the truth. Ventriloquist dummy in my mind.
My Mother was adamant I couldn't name my first son Sebastian. Dominic and Benedict wer also off the scale according to her.
He was actually named quite differently, by my husband who, when the boy was 9 and I was pregant with our second son and thinking of names, said he had no idea why he had insisted on the first boy's name as he didn't even like it!
From that moment on, our No.1 son chose to be called by his second, classic name and still is - except he shortens it.
Other names I don't like but for whatever reason are coming in: Claude; Norman (that has to be the very awfulest name ever); Stanley; Gertrude; Maud and Ethel.
Bluebelle I don't think you will find anywhere in the Bible where it says Mary was a prostitute.
But speaking of that, I have never understood why we should think so badly of prostitutes.
During the despicable Jeffrey Archer's trial a witness's veracity was called into question because she was a sex worker! Why? Ludicrous.
Well how wonderful in a few posts these grans have changed a negative into a positive I think that’s good going and I think it’s a perfectly good name even if I have still got the song in my head
I’ve got six grandchildren, five of their names I love, and could happily have chosen them myself.
One I’m not so keen on, and dislike it in its abbreviated form, but I love him to bits, so really it doesn’t matter, he’s our lovely boy, whatever he’s called.
Nothing wrong with the name although it wouldn't be my choice. Would you rather they called her Chardonnay?
She may well have diminutives of her name before long unless her parents are bent on the full name (which is lovely IMO)
Don't sweat it, wait and see...
You'll soon love it because its your GDs name and you'll love her x
All the best to you and your family, onlyruth!
How exciting to be welcoming a loved granddaughter with a fabulous name!
You lovely people. I'm already feeling much different about it. I honestly hadn't realised that it had come into fashion. Apparently it's a new entrant into the top 100 names in the UK. I'm still not a fan of the sound of the name myself (I like the traditional names!), but it's lovely to know how many people do love it!
Thanks also for respecting my request to keep this thread ungoogleable. I'd hate my daughter to realise just how much I'd hated it.
Just a couple of weeks to go to grandparenthood. I imagine I'll be back on this forum regularly!
If it is the D name, I absolutely love it.
I've got one of my own in the family
Beautiful name
Yes I've changed my mind, from my post up thread where I said "it's not that bad", giving it more thought, I think it's actually really, really nice. I don't think you'll have any problems as far as the associations you are worried about OP. The Tom Jones song will mean about as much to her peer group as Gracie Fields warblings do today.
Well - if the granathachrisie grans have the D name right, no luck keeping it a secret onlyruth.
For what its worth, I think it's a beautiful name and I can't imagine people seeing it as the name of a prostitute. Event typing that had me feeling angry. It's right back into the whores and madonnas approach to girls and women that anyone could even think it could have negative associations.
Our names are one of the early gifts our parents give to us. After giving us life, they give us a name. I wasn't particularly fond of my name, it's one of those that sets its owners as having been born in one 8 year period beginning in about 1945. Once I learned how much my mother loved the name, how she longed to give me what she saw as a modern name, rather than the traditional family name she had (and I'd have chosen) I accepted my fate and always remember it was given with love.
I’ve never heard that Freddy Mercury one but ever since this thread started I ve been humming Tom Jones one cant get it out of my head now
Nobody seems to have mentioned Freddy Mercury's cat yet.
youtu.be/yEYRoXWmWYU
PS: It is on an album called Sweet Liberties, commissioned from a group of musicians to celebrate the Magna Carta anniversary. The song celebrates Lila (pronounced lie-lar) Matters, who apparently went up in an airship to scatter suffrage leaflets (it also references Mary Prince who campaigned for the abolition of slavery)
I went off to make dinner and found myself humming this song, written by Nancy Kerr about a Australian feminist heroine - which I then realised may be a diminutive of the name that worries you. Best of all, it has a great chorus that you could sing to a little one. Enjoy!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjBee9r3ZFQ
I can only think of Jezebel and do hope that it is not this name.
There is a 'D' in my granddaughter's class at school. She's a sweet little girl, and I'm sure that nobody ever considers her name as being in any way reminiscent of a prostitute.
In my opinion it's a lovely name! Very feminine and quite beautiful. (And becoming more popular.)
And yes - baby will grow into it. And I'd like to bet that by the time she is crawling around you will have got used to it, and, because it is her name, you will love it just as much as you love her!
I think it is a lovely name.
Dont worry so much, you will get used to it.
It took me several months to get used to Alfie and now he couldn't be anything else.
Oh the D name oh that’s fine I very much doubt if that would be connected with prostitution with today’s generation
When I used to hear the song I never really thought of it as connected to prostitution I really wouldn’t worry about that one too much
I thought it was going to be worse
Oh unless it’s the J song.......
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