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Grandson (12) stealing something from my bag then lying about it

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trisher Fri 08-Nov-19 09:55:21

I would cook the steak. I'd forget about the chocolate. It might be a good idea to start treating him a bit differently to his younger siblings-so perhaps give him the chocolate when you arrive and say "It's up to you when you eat it, I'm saving the others till such a time." He's at the age when he wants control of something and giving him some choices might help. I wouldn't tell his parents, but I would tell him that you aren't going to tell anyone this time but you might have to if it happened again. He does need to know that although he is older you all still love him. Older children sometimes think they don't have the charm of their younger siblings.

Callistemon Fri 08-Nov-19 09:49:20

But perhaps no chocolate on Saturday; if he asks why tell him he had double doses already.

Callistemon Fri 08-Nov-19 09:47:42

No-one goes in my handbag, not even DH. He says there's a crocodile in there.

I agree with Bridgeit and other posters.
I think it's best dealt with between the two of you.
And cook him his steak

gmarie Fri 08-Nov-19 09:46:14

If I was in your place, I would cook the steak because I feel consequences should attach to the infraction and not pop up elsewhere. I'd also drop the subject of the chocolate, as was promised, but not bring any the next time I visited. Then, if the kids asked about it, I'd nonchalantly mention (without not focusing my gaze on anyone in particular) that I wouldn't be bringing any for a time because I was a bit sad that some had been taken from your my purse during the previous visit.

Gonegirl Fri 08-Nov-19 09:33:46

Definitely give him his steak dinner.

Gonegirl Fri 08-Nov-19 09:32:24

Oh God! Don't pile a load of guilt on him for that! Why didn't you just call him a little bugger and tell him no choc for him next time? And then forget about it when next time comes around.

I always take choccie for my two. If I catch one sneaking a bit of the other one's they get yelled at.

Why didn't you give the choc to them straight after lunch?

Davidhs Fri 08-Nov-19 09:24:58

Let it go on this occasion and don’t tease the children that way.

“Thou shalt not tempt”

Bridgeit Fri 08-Nov-19 09:23:46

I would go ahead with the steak meal.
You are seeking to help him Change his behaviour so better to chat over the steak on the lines of ‘ I.m so glad we got that out in the open , & that we can trust each other to talk about things that are troubling us etc
He needs to have confidence in you that he can admit if he has erred in anyway knowing that you still love him but will tell him the truth, & point out his errors & be there to help him & understand why he is behaving this way. He needs your love & honesty & your boundaries best wishes.

Fennel Fri 08-Nov-19 09:20:35

The main thing is to keep temptation out of his way, as Oopsminty says.
On the few occasions something like that has happened in our family, if you're fairly sure, I think it's best just to state that you know it was him. Don't give him an opportunity to lie by asking "Was it you?"
Sounds as if he's a chocoholic!

notanan2 Fri 08-Nov-19 09:17:02

I think tell them. They are the parents so need the "bigger picture"

Septimia Fri 08-Nov-19 09:11:32

I agree. It's probably better to leave it.

He knows you know and that might well be enough to stop him doing anything like that again.

But don't be afraid to say something to him if you do catch him out again. Tell his parents if the behaviour escalates.

Lona Fri 08-Nov-19 09:09:22

I agree.

Oopsminty Fri 08-Nov-19 09:07:09

I'd let it go. You are probably right that he ate it but I think it's best left well alone.

Stop the handbag game. Give them the chocolate when you arrive or hang on to your bag.

And cook the steak

grandmaz Fri 08-Nov-19 09:04:13

Oh dear. I'm in a mither, as to whether I should share this sorry tale with my DGS's parents (my son and DIL)

The three children all know that I often bring a little chocolate treat for them, in my holdall, when I visit. Sometimes, when they ask about it, I will say...'It's in my bag, you can get it'

Yesterday. the eldest, my 12 yr old DGS, asked whether I had brought anything in my bag and I teased him, saying 'well I might have done, we shall have to see, later'.

Later, when the younger children were in bed I went to my bag and pulled out a little choc bar, which I gave to DGS. He thanked me and said 'I haven't had a Tw** for ages'. I then went back to my bag to put the other two chocs in the fridge for the other two children. I turned my bag out and there was only one left in there.

Knowing that my DGS has been lying to his parents a lot and that they are struggling with his pre teen behaviour, something made me check in the waste bin. Sure enough, there was the wrapper.

I went and sat with my DGS and said that there was a choc missing...wondered who might have had it, whereupon he srenuously denied having eaten it and suggested that it may have been his younger sister.

In the interests of fairness, I went upstaits and asked his sister who said no - she's 7 and an open book ...I know if she isn't telling the truth. I absolutely believe that she didn't do it.

So back down I went and had a rather one sided conversation with my DGS, about how telling lies can lead to people not being believed when they are in fact telling the truth over a matter. He had little to say, other that 'it wasn't me, I didn't eat it', a couple of times. I've known and loved him since he was born and when he tells lies he has a facial 'expression' and mannerisms which give him away. I was at pains to stress that trust is hard won and easily lost and having said my piece, told him that we would not mention it again.

My dilemma is this...do I tell his mum and dad...they are stressed out already with his attitude and general behaviours. Should I add this to their worries in the name of solidarity in the face of unacceptable behaviour, or should I keep it to myself and simply not bring chocolate to their home, for a while, to reinforce my disapproval?

I am not surprised that he is telling lies as I know that many kids at this point in their development, do so. I am sad that he would lie to my face, as we have always been very close and I hadn't expected it from him.

He is staying with me on Saturday and has asked (prior to 'Chocolategate') for steak and chips for his supper. Do you think that I should put the steak on hold for another occasion and cook him something less 'special' for his supper (we're not talking bread and water here, just an ordinary everyday meal, btw!)

I just don't know what to do for the best as regards telling my DS and DIL and whether to reinforce my own disappointment by not cooking him his favourite meal, at my house, on this occasion.

All and any thoughts gratefully received.