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Feeling sidelined

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Galaxy Sat 10-Jul-21 08:52:05

Yes I probably agree Lucca I just think these things are often very complicated in terms of family dynamics, roles of men and women and so on.
I hope you sort it out OP flowers

Lucca Sat 10-Jul-21 08:46:28

Galaxy

I dont know Lucca I think lots of people expect the woman in the marriage to facilitate all the relationships in a family. Does the son never look after the child on his own would that not be an opportunity to spend time with the grandchild.

Oh absolutely but what I meant was rather than going through the son to talk about her grievances /issues with daughter in law she should address them directly to her ? Wouldn’t you be annoyed to have your husband say “my mother says…” etc ?

But, as I said, just a thought and others may disagree !

Galaxy Sat 10-Jul-21 08:42:28

I dont know Lucca I think lots of people expect the woman in the marriage to facilitate all the relationships in a family. Does the son never look after the child on his own would that not be an opportunity to spend time with the grandchild.

AGAA4 Sat 10-Jul-21 08:41:00

Just keep seeing your GD as much as possible. She will get to know you as she gets older. I am sure you are loving and kind and she will respond to that in time.

Lucca Sat 10-Jul-21 08:37:40

I think perhaps if you are going to discuss it with anyone it should actually be with your daughter in law rather than through your son? Pick one thing and just ask her nicely if you have done something wrong .
Just a thought others may disagree

BridgetPark Sat 10-Jul-21 08:31:11

Twinstar, I feel so sad for you. Unfortunately, she holds all the cards doesn't she? She is clearly terrified to let you in, even a tiny bit, but not sure what she fears will happen. Maybe she thinks it will give you too much "power", and that the little girl will have a bond with you. It seems she is trying to prevent this happening, which is just so sad. I think you need to have a conversation with your son, even though you are reluctant to do so. You could word it so that you have every sympathy with dil, even though deep down you don't, and tell him you see how the situation is. You understand a woman's bond with her own mother will always come first, but a little bit of contact for HIS mother would be lovely. You fear not having a relationship with your granddaughter which is understandable. Just say to your son, you can see that you will never be able to have a closeness with granddaughter as your dil doesn't see any value in it, and how sad it makes you. But stress you feel no animosity towards her, you understand its her mother first, but really she needs to know that your eyes are open regarding the situation. If you are not accusatory, she cannot pull the shutters up even more, because that would be admitting you are right in your reading of the situation.
I am so sad for you, but she needs to know you are hurting in some ways. If she has any shame, she will give you a little, if she doesn't shame on her. Good luck, lovely.

tickingbird Sat 10-Jul-21 07:58:19

Unfortunately some DIL’s are like that. I had one that was pretty spiteful to me even though I tried very hard to get her onside. I gave up in the end. My son did notice and did say something to her on more than one occasion but to no avail. Same son said to me that women never like their partner’s mum. I used to get on with my MIL but I’m not insecure and jealous and I believe that’s where it stems frim.

agnurse Sat 10-Jul-21 07:56:32

Grandparenting isn't a competition or a zero sum game.

I'd suggest focusing on enjoying the time you DO get to spend with her.

My parents see our daughter much more than Hubby's parents do - because they live 4 hours' drive away, and Hubby's parents live across the pond.

TBH, whenever I hear someone comparing what they get to what the other GPs get, I am reminded of a young person saying, "But so and so gets to go/do/wear/have whatever! It's not FAIR!" What was your response when your children made such statements?

TwinstarJ9 Sat 10-Jul-21 07:37:58

My 30 yr old son and his wife have a 18month old daughter, who I adore. Son is in police force and does some late shifts but mostly has weekends off, D-I-L also in the police force works 3 days a week. I’m very aware of giving them time together and not intruding, however whenever I ask to visit I usually get 1 1:2 hours before D-I-L says she needs bub to wind down for her nap or bedtime. Which is my cue to get going. I am never given any time on my own with her and always heavily supervised so much so last week I didn’t even get the opportunity to read a book or play with her in anyway. I was expected to just sit and watch her play with her mum. If I tried to do something DIL distracted her to go to her and read a book or play with something. DIL sees her own mum and dad at least twice a week and only her mum is allowed to babysit. I feel like I’m not being given a real chance to have a relationship with my grand daughter and today at my sons 30th luncheon at a restaurant, was completely ignored by DIL. Her own mum and dad took bub for a while and when I tried to take her for a walk DIL took her and said she was sick. I don’t know how to handle my DIL. She hasn’t approved of anything I’ve ever given my granddaughter as a gift and won’t let her play with the toys I’ve given her, and it’s got to the point where I feel everything I say and do is wrong so increasingly I’m withdrawing too scared to say anything other than pleasantries and too scared to buy anything without approval. In a group like today it was so obvious bub doesn’t really recognise me or know me enough to come to me. I feel so incredibly sad that I’m unable to enjoy fully being a Nanna in the way I had hoped and after having two boys was so excited to have a grand daughter. I’m trying to see it from DIL perspective and I recognise she is highly strung and needs to control every aspect of her life or she feels anxious. However I feel sidelined and that she sees no value in me whatsoever and that I’m being tolerated as MIL. I don’t feel I can say anything to my son as he will just tell DIL and I don’t think anything good will come of it. I don’t really know what to do other than what I’ve been doing which is be loving and supportive and regularly visiting when allowed. I am not normally a person who lets others walk all over me but am fearful of rocking the boat as she has all the power in the relationship. Was hoping for other grandparents perspective on this situation.