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Support for grandparents who have children and grandchildren living abroad

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maddyone Fri 29-Dec-23 23:32:17

Someone suggested on another thread that it would be nice to have a supportive thread for those of us with children and grandchildren living abroad. So here it is. I’m starting the thread, I hope all those affected, positively or negatively, will feel free to add to the thread and gain friendship and support. And others are welcome to join in the discussion too.

maddyone Wed 14-Feb-24 11:26:42

I’ve just been reading through all your posts and I know exactly how you all feel. I’m sorry, I can’t reply to every post, but believe me, I know how you feel. The joy when you see them, the sadness and tears when you separate. The fear and knowledge that we’re getting older and won’t be able to travel forever. The briefness of video or WhatsApp calls. The emotional pull to your adult child when they need you and you’re not there. The heartbreak when your grandchild clings to you and cries as you leave. The joy when you arrive. We all understand one another.

Grammaretto Wed 14-Feb-24 11:36:31

Tomorrow is my last day here in NZ. I have had a great time with the family doing "normal" things though not helping out much maddyone!

I'll be very sad to leave but a month is a long time to stay with anyone and they plan to come to Europe in our summer so it won't be long.

I feel the pain some of you are sharing and as we get older, everything gets harder.

I am so glad I braved the journey. It is just about doable but so so long. I left my phone on the plane so arrived with no contact numbers and haven't been able to access emails for a month either. DDiL has lent me her old one and I have taken photos and been on here and been in touch with the other families in the UK.

I don't know when if ever I will come here again but there's no time to worry about it now. grin

Chocolatelovinggran Wed 14-Feb-24 13:21:27

Oh maddyone my heart goes out to you. It's tough enough being so far away but so much harder with your daughter going through such a hard time.
I've been thinking, also, with other posters about the role of cousins in the lives of our grandchildren. Most of our GC abroad will see their cousins rarely, missing out on not just fun and games but also family stories/ legends/ jokes. My own cousins were very important to me, as an only child, and as modern families tend to be small, this seems such a loss.

polomint Wed 14-Feb-24 14:40:02

Yes it's the cousins I feel for too as our have definitely grown apart. I think when my daughter moved away her husband thought the best way for their children to get used to the new way of life was to have less contact with us. That was hard for us here. So I have 3 grandchildren in their twenties in Canada and 2 here in their twenties. The Canadian ones don't miss their cousins here as much as they had all the excitement of new schools, new friends, new hobbies etc while the ones here were left to just get on with their lives here. They didn't keep in contact although the ones here tried their best to communicate but eventually after lots of disappointments they gave up trying. I'm unhappy about it but just had to accept it as I tried many times to keep the lines open

maddyone Wed 14-Feb-24 18:43:51

Wishing you a good journey home Grammaretto. It’s a terribly long journey, but you’ll be bringing all your memories home with you.

Grammaretto Thu 15-Feb-24 03:37:15

Thanks Maddyone it's grim but I've survived it once and yes the memories are coming home with me.
One last meal out this evening and an early start in the morning.

What I love most is sharing their normal lives and being able to picture them when I'm not here if you know what I mean.

I'll miss the warmth too. Back to shivering Scotland.

polomint Mon 19-Feb-24 08:51:20

My daughter in Canada let me know that today is national family day and most people are off work to celebrate it. We don't have that holiday here. I don't know if Australia or New Zealand have that holiday too

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 19-Feb-24 09:01:33

Polomint- what a lovely idea - a family day. Norway has a national day in May which is a holiday, costumes are worn, songs are sung and the love for the country is celebrated in a respectful way - no jingoism.

Grammaretto Mon 19-Feb-24 18:41:32

I don't think there is a special family day in NZ.
I was there for Waitangi day which commemorates the signing of the treaty between the Maoris and the white settlers, and we went to a festival to bless the fishing boats. Wellington was too windy to launch the boats but the music and stalls were good. 😂

maddyone Mon 19-Feb-24 18:50:06

We were there for Waitangi Day too Grammaretto. We went to a fair in the little town that my daughter lives in, where there was some Māori performances, rides for the children, lots of food stalls, and stalls selling all kinds of ethnic things and other things. We had a lovely afternoon there with our daughter and the children. The highlight for the children was getting spray on Maori tattoos, which of course wash off later.

polomint Mon 26-Feb-24 08:21:19

Is anyone planning on visiting their families abroad this year? I keep toying with the idea but I would need to travel alone. Do any gransnetters do this? I've been told that it's best to ask for special help at the airport as it could make it easier and less stressful

silverlining48 Mon 26-Feb-24 08:30:51

Special help can be used anywhere. I have had to use it twice both times in Europe and it worked very well.

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 26-Feb-24 08:38:59

I always travel alone, but my family are only in Europe. I would absolutely ask for special help if needed. A friend's elderly mother had four star treatment on a solo trip to Canada for a family wedding. She was very impressed!

Grammaretto Mon 26-Feb-24 08:41:54

Yes polomint, I just did!
I booked through a travel agent although apart from finding the cheapest flights at civilised times they didn't have to do much. They didn't tell me I needed an ETA to get into NZ so I had a last minute panic.

I did see people sitting in wheelchairs waiting for assistance. I wasn't ready for that.

I booked aisle seats on all 6 flights so I could easily get up and walk about. I bought a neck pillow to stop me falling asleep on a stranger's shoulder. I remembered flight socks.

I accidentally left my phone behind in the first flight out. It had all my contacts, camera, booking info. I haven't got it back. Don't do that grin and keep hard copies of all your important documents numbers etc.

So many lone travellers and some older than me. I'm 75.

Go for it!

polomint Mon 26-Feb-24 13:31:36

I knew you had went to visit your family grammaretto and I admire you for going alone and doing 7 flights. I'm just a bit concerned doing one there and one back but you have given me courage

Tricia2 Mon 26-Feb-24 14:19:24

Thank you Maddyone. I miss my daughter and her family terribly. I could be helping her so much and getting to know the grandkids more. When I do visit I enjoy playing games with them, reading to them, going for walks, baking cookies and gardening-just the simple every day activities are precious to me.

polomint Mon 26-Feb-24 15:32:05

I think the ache of missing themtricia2 never goes away, we just try to cope and accept it in our own way

silverlining48 Mon 26-Feb-24 15:52:35

It fades polomint but it’s still hard.

Grammaretto Mon 26-Feb-24 18:11:17

Thanks polomint. I surprised myself.
Spending such a good long quality time with my DC and DGC was definitely worth any discomfort and I would do it all again. not just yet
grin

Marymoo23 Mon 26-Feb-24 20:35:16

Does anyone else have a family situation of SS recommending adoption?

Grammaretto Tue 27-Feb-24 12:39:29

Marymoo23

Does anyone else have a family situation of SS recommending adoption?

What's this?

silverlining48 Tue 27-Feb-24 12:52:45

Marymoo23 you need to start a new thread with perhaps a little more detail

Nannyhere Thu 29-Feb-24 04:03:58

On here as suddenly feeling bereavement of son and family living in Aus all over again! They’ve been gone nearly 3 years and we face time reasonably regularly. We’ve been there once but the fares are so expensive. My son came back for my dad’s funeral after 5 months . It’s not easy as although they’ve visited some amazing places etc the children have not settled and want to come back to family. They are 15 and 13. DIL seems ok but hasn’t made loads of friends and son is in Aus navy so is away. I was devastated when they went but knew it was their dream and said they should try it. But life not as brilliant so it seems- the main advantage seems to be larger salaries. Anyway, you do get used to it but the ache never really goes away so just trying to get on with my own life and hope to go there more often when we retire!!!

Grammaretto Thu 29-Feb-24 08:30:03

It must be hard for you both Nannyhere knowing that they aren't all that happy, especially the DGC.
Keep chatting to them. Let them know they will always be welcome back if it doesn't work out but try to look on the bright side and be positive.

Plenty of people live abroad for a few years. It's a great experience.

Water69 Fri 02-May-25 02:19:48

Support is so important. I need support too. Me son and family are not abroad but live on the west coast. I am in the midwest. Miss my grandchildren so much. Thanks for starting this thread!