Gransnet forums

Grandparenting

Big Disappointment - need to get over it quick

(56 Posts)
Philippa60 Wed 18-Sept-24 07:11:50

Hi
This may sound trivial but H and I are really upset and disappointed.
We had booked and planned a wonderful week in Paris and London for April with our 13-year old Grandson.
We were all 3 so excited!
And now our DD has said she is too stressed about us traveling abroad alone with him and we need to cancel!
Of course everything was arranged in agreement with her and her H.
Never mind the loss of money in cancelling, we are just SO disappointed.
DD says (and I know it's true) that it's not that she doesn't trust us, it's just that she is anxious just at the thought that he will be out of the country without her.
I feel she is transferring her anxieties to the kids, which is a shame, but hey, her child, her rules.
I can see she is upset that she's upset us, and I definitely don't want this to be a big deal, which is why we need to get over it quick.
H is devastated, much more than me. He suffers from ADHD and is very sensitive to rejection, which is how he sees this.
Worth adding that in our social / family circle, grandparents taking a young teenager away for a trip is a very popular thing. Our own kids did it with their GPs when they were kids and have very fond memories. Would not have occurred to us to forbid it.
Also worth adding that our grandson doesn't seem too upset at the cancellation, so maybe he wasn't as excited as we thought...
Thanks for any advice here

Norah Wed 18-Sept-24 14:40:18

Philippa60

Couldn't agree more! We will go anyway, for sure.
She won't let any of the kids go.
We are done offering.
Time to spend on ourselves alone!

Good solution, have fun!

Philippa60 Wed 18-Sept-24 17:13:55

Honestly this whole episode has taught me to stop bending over backwards for my daughter, always suggesting things to do, offering help etc.
I'm going to take a big step back and put us first.
I have to be honest and admit that this is what my H has been saying for years, but I've finally got the point!

Grams2five Wed 18-Sept-24 17:52:22

Grannynannywanny

You mentioned your grandson doesn’t seem too upset. It makes me wonder if perhaps he now doesn’t want to go and your daughter is sparing his embarrassment by taking the blame. 13 can be a tricky age.

I noticed this too. I had one daughter around that age that I often took the heat on things she didn’t feel comfy doing

GrannyRose15 Wed 18-Sept-24 18:05:06

I’d be trying to explain to my daughter that she can’t let her own anxiety govern her children’s lives. She is being unfair to both you and her child. It’s one thing to refuse permission quite another to change one’s mind after arrangements have been made. As for the child not seeming upset. Of course he won’t show it. He knows he can’t go now so what would be the point of acknowledging disappointment I think you are right to stop offering expensive treats if this is how you are treated. Who knows though in a few years your GC may be able to make their own choice to accompany you on exciting trips.

Oreo Wed 18-Sept-24 21:18:34

Grannynannywanny

You mentioned your grandson doesn’t seem too upset. It makes me wonder if perhaps he now doesn’t want to go and your daughter is sparing his embarrassment by taking the blame. 13 can be a tricky age.

This is worth considering, and as said, 13 is a funny age, not really a child but not very grown up either.
Either way, put it behind you quickly I can well understand your disappointment but enjoy it with the two of you.Tbh you will probably have a better time as you can do just the things that suit you.

Hithere Wed 18-Sept-24 21:25:21

Whose idea was this trip?

Your daughter, gs, yours, your husband?

crazyH Wed 18-Sept-24 22:12:17

I have 3 children and 6 grandchildren, 4 of whom I have looked after, baby sat, fed, bathed etc.from the day they were born. But I haven’t looked after my middle son’s children, on my own, for more than about 10 hours, since they were born. They are now 9 and 6 years old. My son and his wife probably think I am too old. D.i.l’s parents are 10 years younger. Personally, I think they are very possessive of the grandchildren. My d.i.l. is an only child, so I suppose I can understand. At first, it used to upset me…..not any more, as long as the GC know I love them.
Enjoy your holiday Phillipa60

Philippa60 Thu 19-Sept-24 05:57:20

It was our idea. I can see now that we were very excited about it and probably pushed too hard.
It was pure wanting to give our GS a great trip and enjoy being with him, as our parents did for our kids and so many others we know who do this.
Just coming to terms with the fact that our hopes and excitement are not theirs!
My DD's anxiety levels are pretty bad, she honestly doesn't want her kids far away from her at all, outside of regular everyday activities (which is fine, they come to our place on a regular basis) but even leaving town is not something she is happy about.
Anyway we have moved on, will enjoy a different kind of trip, and even managed to get a refund on his flight and on theatre tickets (that were supposed to be non-refundable but they very kindly agreed to refund us!)

argymargy Thu 19-Sept-24 06:49:21

I’m glad you’re going anyway 😁 I do feel for the children though - having a parent putting such pressure on them to be nearby seems like potentially storing up trouble for the future (sorry, I’ve been reading Estrangement posts).

grannyro Thu 19-Sept-24 11:55:49

Maybe your grandson was a bit nervous and did not want to go. It could be that his mother is covering for him? Either way both of you should go and enjoy yourselves.

JLR1220 Thu 19-Sept-24 12:01:16

Great idea to go anyway….with or without another grandchild. In these scary times, anxiety-ridden and overprotective parents is expected. I know my DIL would feel the same and I’d have to be understanding. Enjoy!!!

Hemgranot Thu 19-Sept-24 12:02:44

I had anxiety about leaving my little’un with others. But that never included grandparents. She stayed with them when she was 3 and they live 350 miles away. Then when she was five we were going to go abroad with them but my grandmother took a turn for the worse so I had to bail. My in-laws were very understanding and they took her without me.
Not going to lie I was on tenterhooks until they landed back home again. But she was with people who love her and I knew would ensure her safety and happiness. I hope your daughter can realise that too.

SaxonGrace Thu 19-Sept-24 12:10:03

Go with your husband, have a wonderful time, unfortunately your grandchild is the one losing out but hey ho, you tried.

Cossy Thu 19-Sept-24 12:10:40

Definitely do NOT cancel! Go alone if needs be, and just check with your DD that it is her stressing and not your DGS.

knspol Thu 19-Sept-24 12:16:17

So very disappointing for you but as your GS doensn't seem to upset then that's a good thing and heaves you just having concerns about your DH. The best thing you can do is go away and enjoy yourselves and you've already planned for that.
I do think it might be worthwhile at some point in time having a deeper chat with your daughter about her anxiety. As you said the one grandchild is already overly anxious then some sort of therapy might be in order as it seems her anxiety is spilling over onto her children.
Good luck with your holiday and enjoy!

Philippa60 Thu 19-Sept-24 13:56:41

Thank you all for the lovely warm support

pascal30 Thu 19-Sept-24 14:01:53

I would bring gifts back for your GS, as he is probably masking his feelings to protect his mum.. have a great holiday

grandtanteJE65 Thu 19-Sept-24 14:11:37

As to why your daughter let you plan this. I don't know, but my daughter did something similar. She promised that she and my grandson would come for a week or ten days of his school holiday, and said they were so looking forward to it.

At the start of the school holiday, I asked again, if they would be able to come and she said yes, quite definately. Then as the end of the holidays were getting near, turned round and said that she couldn't face the stress of the journey (four hours by train, so nothing drastic.)

Seems to me, you daughter has done something similar.

How wise of you to swallow your disappointment and decide to take the trip without your grandson.

rocketship Thu 19-Sept-24 14:28:17

Grannynannywanny

You mentioned your grandson doesn’t seem too upset. It makes me wonder if perhaps he now doesn’t want to go and your daughter is sparing his embarrassment by taking the blame. 13 can be a tricky age.

A definite possibility for sure~~~

Genevive4 Thu 19-Sept-24 14:32:15

That occurred to me too...

sandelf Thu 19-Sept-24 14:36:49

So can you get any refunds? What would you and DH enjoy? Try not to make a 'thing' of it - just 'Oh that's a pity, but better to say now than later'. Apply The Rules - when let down - be happy and busy with other things. Galling for you though - the chances young people have today many of us would have grasped with both hands!

sazz1 Thu 19-Sept-24 14:41:27

My late MIL promised our DC she would take them to Majorca on holiday several times over the years but never ever did. Still went with FIL every year though. Also OHs cousin promised to take them to crufts as she breeds and shows dogs there. Never heard from her again and tbh I don't want to. My mum did take them on a day trip to France though.
MIL and cousin both told the children and never did it which I think was awful.

GreyhairedWarrior Thu 19-Sept-24 14:46:17

That’s such a shame @Philippa60. I brought my (then) 11 year old GD from the US to the UK for a 10 day visit last autumn so she could meet other family members. It was a huge success and her younger sister is now looking forward to her turn.

BigBopper Thu 19-Sept-24 14:51:18

Children can change their minds at the drop of a hat. You may lose a little money by cancelling your grandchild's travel but you will save money when you arrive at your destination as you won't be spending money on him.

Enjoy yourself and don't offer again.

Hithere Thu 19-Sept-24 16:34:44

I would still go on trip with your husband and enjoy!

Next time, if you are up to it, ask your daughter and gs what they would like to do?