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Big Disappointment - need to get over it quick

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Philippa60 Wed 18-Sept-24 07:11:50

Hi
This may sound trivial but H and I are really upset and disappointed.
We had booked and planned a wonderful week in Paris and London for April with our 13-year old Grandson.
We were all 3 so excited!
And now our DD has said she is too stressed about us traveling abroad alone with him and we need to cancel!
Of course everything was arranged in agreement with her and her H.
Never mind the loss of money in cancelling, we are just SO disappointed.
DD says (and I know it's true) that it's not that she doesn't trust us, it's just that she is anxious just at the thought that he will be out of the country without her.
I feel she is transferring her anxieties to the kids, which is a shame, but hey, her child, her rules.
I can see she is upset that she's upset us, and I definitely don't want this to be a big deal, which is why we need to get over it quick.
H is devastated, much more than me. He suffers from ADHD and is very sensitive to rejection, which is how he sees this.
Worth adding that in our social / family circle, grandparents taking a young teenager away for a trip is a very popular thing. Our own kids did it with their GPs when they were kids and have very fond memories. Would not have occurred to us to forbid it.
Also worth adding that our grandson doesn't seem too upset at the cancellation, so maybe he wasn't as excited as we thought...
Thanks for any advice here

argymargy Wed 18-Sept-24 07:50:47

Go anyway and have a lovely time. Is there another grandchild who can go with you? Cancelling seems over-dramatic.

Tuaim Wed 18-Sept-24 07:58:10

My worry would be that if she is stressing now he is 13, what if he needs to go away on a scout trip, or school trip. Also, within 5 years he may well be off to uni/travelling. He needs to start somewhere.

Philippa60 Wed 18-Sept-24 07:59:43

Couldn't agree more! We will go anyway, for sure.
She won't let any of the kids go.
We are done offering.
Time to spend on ourselves alone!

Grannynannywanny Wed 18-Sept-24 08:07:08

You mentioned your grandson doesn’t seem too upset. It makes me wonder if perhaps he now doesn’t want to go and your daughter is sparing his embarrassment by taking the blame. 13 can be a tricky age.

Luckygirl3 Wed 18-Sept-24 08:08:02

Definitely go yourselves and have a great time!
There could be lots of things behind this. It may not be DD anxiety. It could be that GS has decided it is not cool to go away with GPs and DD has needed to find some tactful way if cancelling ... teenagers are a strange breed and entirely swayed by what is acceptable among their peers.
Put a brave face on it all and go and have some fun yourselves!

V3ra Wed 18-Sept-24 08:11:11

Is it possible your daughter is a bit jealous that her son might be having a nice time without her...? 🤔

MissInterpreted Wed 18-Sept-24 08:19:59

I agree with the others. Yes, it is very disappointing, but there could be other reasons behind it. The best thing you can do is put it behind you and then go and enjoy the trip yourselves.

Nannarose Wed 18-Sept-24 08:32:40

Firstly, well done for keeping your feelings to yourself, and for recognising the issues at play.
I worked with children & families with ADHD & other specific learning difficulties. Many parents end up with anxiety that spills over.
Yes, 13 is a tricky age, but even more so with ADHD in the mix. One of our DGCs with mild ADHD became very anxious at this age, about being away from his parents - despite having stayed enjoyably with both sets of GPs, other family members & friends since he was 3 years old. We saw this anxiety bouncing between him & his parents, but with time & understanding it resolved itself.

You say you won't offer again, but when & IF you feel able, can I suggest that you have a quiet word with your DD? Simply say that when the family are ready, you would like to organise a trip.
I'd also like to make another suggestion that may or may not not be suitable for your family. Many kids with ADHD, especially teenagers, get on much better with an activity holiday - whether an organised kind or simply being somewhere they can swim, run, do a lot of active stuff.

And this is a good place to vent anonymously! I hope you enjoy your trip, and that the family find a way to negotiate this.

TerriBull Wed 18-Sept-24 08:34:23

Definitely go anyway, remembering my own children around that age, I often felt that some of the wonderful places we took them to were somewhat lost on them. We were lucky enough to do a long weekend without them in Rome, when they were teens, and it was all the better just being the two of us I have to say.

Go, enjoy and have a wonderful time.

flappergirl Wed 18-Sept-24 08:45:54

i agree with Grannynannywanny. I think it's possible that your son may have changed his mind and your DD is taking the blame. He is 13 after all, which is the age when kids start to feel more independent and less inclined to want to be with grandparents. Perhaps he wants to stay home and play computer games with his mates!

Another thought. Are you in the States? If so, perhaps your daughter is genuinely anxious about a trip to Europe (terrorist attacks etc).

Redhead56 Wed 18-Sept-24 08:58:14

My DD and my DS wouldn’t agree to us taking our GC away so I have never and wouldn’t even suggest it even when they are a bit older.
You and your DH should just go and make the best of it without GS. He may already have known of his parent’s anxiety about the trip that’s why he is not disappointed. When he is a bit older he will have the choice who and where he goes away with. You might just get a chance to take him abroad at some point.

eazybee Wed 18-Sept-24 09:08:42

A great pity, but as your grandson doesn't seem too bothered, focus on thatand go and have a good time with your husband.
Your daughter sounds rather silly.

Smileless2012 Wed 18-Sept-24 09:17:06

I'm so pleased that you've decided to go anyway Philippa, of course it wont be the same but I'm sure you'll have a great time, it's Paris and London after all.

ExDancer Wed 18-Sept-24 09:29:48

Is it your husband who has ADHD or your grandson?

Astitchintime Wed 18-Sept-24 09:37:37

I'm pleased that you and DH are still going but I am puzzled as to why DD let you plan it all in the first place - how many GC are there? Does she feel that you are favouring the 13 year old?

Philippa60 Wed 18-Sept-24 10:43:19

Hi just to clarify, it's my H who has ADHD, not the child.
It's an interesting suggestion but I don't think it is him who got cold feet, I really think it is my daughter's anxiety.
But very interesting that he didn't seem to upset.
We had planned everything according to his precise wishes, so it is rather strange.
Why did DD let us plan it in the first place?
She says we "pressured her"...
Maybe...
Anyway we will have a great week at a fraction of the cost!

Philippa60 Wed 18-Sept-24 10:51:04

There are 4 GCs in that family (+ one in Australia).
The 15 year old is riddled with anxiety (wonder where she got that from...) and doesn't want to travel with us.
The 13 year old was very excited about it and the 11 year old was waiting for his turn at age 13. That won't be on offer now.
Then there is a 2.5 year old - gorgeous ray of sunshine she is.
This is definitely not about us favoring one child

Septimia Wed 18-Sept-24 10:51:30

Yes, go and have a great time!

Maybe your GS anticipated that his mum would be reluctant to let him go. Perhaps you could ask him if there's something he'd like to do with you instead, something that might be approved of and that you can all enjoy wihtout any stress.

Septimia Wed 18-Sept-24 10:52:41

without - fingers in wrong order again!

M0nica Wed 18-Sept-24 10:56:53

We have never had our grandson to stay by himself - even though he is now 14, while his sister stayed with us from the age of 6 (we live 200 miles from DS & family)

Mainly it was because he would not sleep anywhere with out a parent until he was nearly 10, no one, least of all him knew why. Unfortunately as he became willing to stay, COVID struck, and now he is up and away with friends and never having stayed alone with us, it is unlikely to start now.

Heigh ho, just have to live with it.

Madgran77 Wed 18-Sept-24 10:58:32

Your grandson may well be masking his disappointment to protect his mum from further anxiety.

Good that you are going anyway; have a lovely time

Shelflife Wed 18-Sept-24 11:06:56

I recognize your disappointment and hope your DH does not take this too personally. My advice is don't think too much about why your DD has back tracked , just go with the flow and retain a healthy relationship with your DD. Your DD will have her reasons and those reasons may not have been present at the planning and booking stage. Accept the situation, go without your GS and have a wonderful trip.

Jane43 Wed 18-Sept-24 11:19:17

I feel very sad for you that you won’t have this special time with your grandson. We took our two grandchildren, 14 and 15 to London for four days in August and we all had a wonderful time together. The grandchildren loved travelling around on the underground and working out the route we needed to take the night before. Perhaps we would have felt differently if it had been another country with a language barrier though and I don’t think we would have gone against their parents if they hadn’t wanted them to go.

Nannarose Wed 18-Sept-24 11:50:19

Philippa60

Hi just to clarify, it's my H who has ADHD, not the child.
It's an interesting suggestion but I don't think it is him who got cold feet, I really think it is my daughter's anxiety.
But very interesting that he didn't seem to upset.
We had planned everything according to his precise wishes, so it is rather strange.
Why did DD let us plan it in the first place?
She says we "pressured her"...
Maybe...
Anyway we will have a great week at a fraction of the cost!

My apologies for a post that turned out to be unhelpful, I should read more carefully.