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Elder abuse

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Shortbreadandkilts Wed 26-Feb-25 09:52:03

Smileless2012 I agree.

Shortbreadandkilts Wed 26-Feb-25 09:51:10

He must have been a nightmare yes - just like our father, but I don’t think it’s acceptable for him to be abused himself now he’s old (if indeed it is elder abuse).

Smileless2012 Wed 26-Feb-25 09:50:45

Maybe one day his D will reap what she has sewn. There's no excuse or justification for elder abuse.

Poppyred Wed 26-Feb-25 09:44:15

He’s trying to make up for the past. He feels guilty, not much you can do really……

flappergirl Wed 26-Feb-25 09:40:29

It doesn't sound as though he'd win any dad of the year awards to be honest. He was "irritable, shouted a lot and was absent." I assume his wife divorced him because of this. He sounds abusive and I think the OP might be mitigating his behaviour somewhat as he is her brother. Now he sees the reality of being a lonely old man and is trying to buy his daughter's affection with monetary gifts. The daughter is happy to take them as she considers it a "pay back". She is alarmed at his new relationship as her inheritance might be threatened if he remarried.

Shortbreadandkilts Wed 26-Feb-25 09:27:50

His daughter says not diabetes!

Shortbreadandkilts Wed 26-Feb-25 09:26:54

Thanks for replies so far.
Yes he is certainly reaping what was sown in the past and he knows it.
Even his ex says their daughter is manipulative. I feel she has developed this as a result of her childhood and she now has significant mental health problems.
I think he has capacity to make his own decisions although I believe his low mood and loneliness make him vulnerable. He would pretty much do anything for his daughter’s favour.
On the website I read it says that when a parent has been abusive they are vulnerable to abuse themselves from the children when they get old. His diabetes says he was emotionally abusive when she was a child but I’m not sure if this means he deserves abuse from her now.

Smileless2012 Wed 26-Feb-25 09:16:18

IMO this is elder abuse and coercive control and in your position along with my other siblings, I would tell my brother.

His D doesn't want her father's new friendship to continue and possibly develop in case this loosens the control she has over him. She's guilt tripping him for financial gain and using emotional blackmail by threatening him with being unable to see his GD if he doesn't do what she wants.

I would also tell her that you know what she's doing and will do whatever you can to prevent any further abuse of your brother.

Barleyfields Wed 26-Feb-25 09:09:40

He is, I’m afraid, reaping what he sowed when his daughter was a child. He is free to do as he wishes and there’s nothing you can do about it.

keepingquiet Wed 26-Feb-25 09:05:26

'He has always given his daughter a lot of money...' therein lies your answer.

Shortbreadandkilts Wed 26-Feb-25 09:01:29

My brother in his 70s is divorced and lives alone. He often isolates himself and has periods of low mood. He has social acquaintances but always found making friends difficult.
He has one adult daughter who has never bothered with him much and gone through periods of not talking to him. She has had mental health problems since a teen.
He is desperate to have a closer relationship with her but says she only wants him for his money.
I am aware that when she was growing up he was irritable and shouted a lot.
He sees his granddaughter only rarely in-spite of living close to them and when he does see them it has to be only if his ex or daughter is present. They tell him when he can see her.
He is only allowed to give his granddaughter presents that are tightly sanctioned by his daughter - she stipulates exactly what gifts he can give.
He is often excluded from family events because his ex says he and his daughter argue and she can’t stand the tension.
He has always given his daughter a lot of money even though she is in her 40s she and her partner have never had steady full time jobs.
He admits he was often an absent father when she was growing up but now he is trying to make amends and treasures the very brief interactions he has with them.
The latest is he is giving the mother of his grandchild and her partner a substantial amount of money for a house. He scrimps on himself and has doesn’t put his heating on and doesn’t eat properly.
Recently he has made a lovely new female friend, a widowed lady through church and his daughter has said she thinks he is too old “for that sort of thing”, and that if he continues the friendship she will cut him off and he won’t see his granddaughter.
Me and my other siblings are concerned about him but we live a couple of hours away.
I was reading an Australian Grandparenting website last night and it described similar situations and said his daughter's behaviour is coercive control and elder abuse. This has shocked and upset me.
Do others agree it could be elder abuse and what would you do?