Them/they What does it mean?

charley68

Thinking about this makes me very cross. Especially that young girls and women are giving away the rights that so many women throughout the years have fought for.

It also probably means that the young woman/person does not care about women's single sex spaces, such as in hospitals, sports, prisons, rape crisis centres, justice - with rapists being called 'she/her' in court by the justice system, reporting media and so on ad nauseam until my head feels it will explode.

I have been watching the Supreme Court online today via my laptop, and some of the questions that the SC judges asked the barristers were gob smacking.

Wow. What a long list of assumptions about a person just because they wish to be referred to in a certain way.
Actually a person who has thought about their gender identify enough to tell you what it is has probably got lots of opinions about safe spaces for women, and especially safe spaces for non-binary people. I am hoping that Gransnet is a space space for everyone to be who they are, but maybe not.

Just address them by name , no Mr ,Mrs Ms or Miss .
Another from the WOKE society that we now seem to live in .
Just before I retired 2 years ago my then Manager came back from a meeting & started using the exact same at the end of her emails .
It was really quite weird as she never explained herself though the company put out an email saying that I believe we should all of been doing the same !!!!!

Sago

It means the person in question is non binary.
They wish to be addressed as them/they.

I have an opinion on this but I am keeping my fingers off the keyboard.

Sago, she/her FFS!

Just how I feel too Sago 🙄

The idea of non binary reinforces gender stereotypes rather than challenging them. That is one of the reasons feminists have concerns.

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Should those of us who are feminists not in turn support those who want their own gender pronoun.?
IMO, not if it requires endorsing an untruth, but others are welcome to do so.

Should we accept males in female sports?

Well said.

I think some of the posters above are forgetting the feminist campaign which led to the acceptance of "MS"
Way back in the 60s I had occasion to speak on behalf of my organisation during a public enquiry re Boundary changes. All the other objectors happened to be male and gave their 1st and last names only adding Dr or Sir if this applied to them. when it was my turn to speak I did the same = First name + Surname. I was interrupted by the chair of the Enquiry who asked if that was Mrs or Miss F....... I asked him if that was relevant? and said that for the purpose of the enquiry my title Could be "Chairperson" of my organisation.
He said that he only wanted to identify my gender, which provoked laughter in the room. Finally I said that I would consent to being MS (which was the brand new pronoun at the time). I got a standing ovation from those present and a wee victory for feminists.
Should those of us who are feminists not in turn support those who want their own gender pronoun.?

Grantanow

It means some people don't distinguish between singular and plural. I blame education.

Not always. For example - ‘ Someone broke into my house, and they stole my jewellery’. or ‘ If a person breaks into a house, they may be sent to prison’.

It means some people don't distinguish between singular and plural. I blame education.

When you meet them. Ask them how they would like to be addressed. Very simple answer.
ileea she/her

Mollygo, I think I meant that the would-be volunteer seems to be 'her own woman' and may help her to be good at the job she'd be required to do. Much depends I guess on how she'd get on with the other volunteers in the shop.

It is indeed badly written and conceived.

Caleo

This would be--volunteer may be over -qualified in intelligence and education for the job. I'd certainly select her for interview if I was calling it, as she may be intelligent enough to tolerate folk who still don't understand all the choices we in a free
country have available to us.

What a confusing post.

This would be--volunteer may be over -qualified in intelligence and education for the job. I'd certainly select her for interview if I was calling it, as she may be intelligent enough to tolerate folk who still don't understand all the choices we in a free
country have available to us.

I would feel wary of working for this person, volunteering or not.

Grunty

^Also, one of my son’s colleagues is ‘non-binary’, and is referred to as ‘Mx’ Smith.^

And how does one pronounce "Mx"? Is it the "m" sound but as though you're choking?

It is pronounced ‘Mix’.

You should always address people how they wish to be addressed it is their right and only polite apart from anything else, you may not agree, but they have made it quite clear to you.

So, should I ask to be addressed as ‘Your Majesty’?

Ohmother

It all started with the vegetarians I guess.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Would you normally call an interviewee by their first name? If so, do that with this person too. Alternatively ask them.

The poster in the O/P has updated her news
www.gransnet.com/forums/gransnet_cafe/1342841-Update-they-them-Really

In conversation with others, they/them replaces she/he.
For example, they prefer tea instead of she prefers tea.

In face to face conversation use their name. On initial meeting introduce yourself and ask may I call you Deloris, but only if their name is Deloris 😂

Sago

It means the person in question is non binary.
They wish to be addressed as them/they.

I have an opinion on this but I am keeping my fingers off the keyboard.

Sago, she/her FFS!

Me too…

They/them is not about address but reference. You ask them how they would like to be addressed as you suggest and respect that.

And it's advised to talk about " first "names rather than "Christian" names.....

Rosie all those codes utterly stupid whoever dreamt that up. What is non binary? This is woke nonsense children are being drip fed.