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Organ donation - 2 questions

(58 Posts)
granjura Sat 10-Nov-12 15:06:46

1/ should we now have an opt-out (as in many European countries) rather than an opt-in system?

2/ perhaps more contentious - should people who agree to be organ donors, have priority when there is such a shortage?

Nonu Sat 10-Nov-12 15:42:37

Yes

1

2

[h.smile]

Butty Sat 10-Nov-12 15:46:57

Opt-in. Definitely yes.

Priority should be given to those most in need.

JessM Sat 10-Nov-12 15:55:04

opt out. Enough pussy footing already.
I think the second option would be too tricky to administrate. Matching donors to those in need is a difficult thing at the best of times. And what about children?

Ana Sat 10-Nov-12 16:02:26

I agree. Yes to 1. No to 2.

Greatnan Sat 10-Nov-12 16:04:05

Yes to 1.
I don't think 2 would be viable,but I do get annoyed when people who say their religion/culture won't allow them to be donors are happy to accept organs from other people.

Ana Sat 10-Nov-12 16:06:31

Does that happen? I'd have thought their religion/culture would prevent them from accepting a donor organ.

soop Sat 10-Nov-12 16:07:36

Yes to first question
No to the second

Greatnan Sat 10-Nov-12 16:13:35

Ana, it certainly does happen. I saw a documentary where people of various religions were interiewed and explained that they had to be 'complete' for the afterlife (they didn't say if they had to preserve their appendix) but it didn't stop them accepting organs. I think JWs don't as it would involve receiving blood.

annodomini Sat 10-Nov-12 16:51:13

Yes to 1; no to 2 for the reasons already given.

absentgrana Sat 10-Nov-12 16:56:46

No, no. The state doesn't own my body and I deeply resent any further interference in my life (or death) from the state. If it goes for opting out, I shall take my name off the register, inform all my family (while I am still in this country) that I do not want my organs used and opt out – sheer bloody mindedness but they may not make assumptions. Of course, those most in need are the ones who should be treated first - no question.

Ana Sat 10-Nov-12 16:56:57

Thanks, Greatnan - I have heard of that, now I come to think about it. Very odd.

JessM Sat 10-Nov-12 17:04:59

Anyone ever call you a stroppy so-and-so absent ? grin

whenim64 Sat 10-Nov-12 17:05:24

Definitely opt out. I think of the people I love and care about. I would be distraught if their lives couldn't be saved because of lack of donors, and we should be prepared to donate ourselves.

No to the second -it shouldn't be who deserves, but who most needs a suitable organ.

whenim64 Sat 10-Nov-12 17:07:25

Jess grin

Ella46 Sat 10-Nov-12 17:07:31

Opt out, in fact I veer towards compulsory harvesting.

Give them to whoever needs most.

Ana Sat 10-Nov-12 17:08:44

Ella, what a creepy phrase! shock I know what you mean, though.

absentgrana Sat 10-Nov-12 17:09:49

It's been known JessM. smile

crimson Sat 10-Nov-12 17:49:00

Has anyone seen the Carey Mulligan film 'Never Let Me Go' ?

jeni Sat 10-Nov-12 17:51:49

1yes
2no

I must declare an interest. My late husband had a second hand kidney. It gave us almost 20 good extra years together.

annodomini Sat 10-Nov-12 17:53:25

I've read the book by Kazuo Ishiguro, crimson - very scary! I really didn't want to see the film.

granjura Sat 10-Nov-12 18:06:15

jenni, so glad you had that chance. Many people become donors, organ or blood, after a loved one needed either.

OK, I can see why many of you have problems with number 2. Not easy hey.
And yet, let's imagine - 2 people, same age, same level of fitness and lifestyle, both have young children, same prognosis, same operating risks, perfect match- but they have only ONE kidney to give. One is a donor, the other one is not. Do the Doctors toss for it, or do they give priority to the one who is a Donor?

Ana Sat 10-Nov-12 18:31:23

Well, I suppose the donor would be the better bet (for the doctors hoping for more organs). But having received a life-prolonging organ, the other person may change their mind and become a donor too!
I think it would be extremely unethical to make the choice based on whether one patient was a donor or not.

tanith Sat 10-Nov-12 18:33:26

Yes to 1 No to 2 which should go by need in my view.

jeni Sat 10-Nov-12 18:40:19

They take various psychological factors into account.eg enthusiasm for life, attitude to problems etc