Nervous breakdown..

Your BIL was very brave.

Agreed! Kali so did mine, also corsets with laces of the same colour!

Ceesnan our posts crossed. Your BiL made a brave decision

My Granny used to wear bloomers. I can never see that particular shade of pink without thinking 'Granny's Knickers Pink'

My dear BIL chose suicide as the alternative to subjecting his wife and children to watching his gradual descent into vascular dementia. Wrong? Possibly. Brave? Undoubtedly.

The nuns who taught me (briefly - I wasn't the right material!) used to bathe in a special robe (or so they told us) so that they would not see their bodies and be tempted into worldly thoughts. Heaven forfend!

If they had glimsped their anatomy I guess they would have had a nervous breakdown - just trying to get back on topic!!

The nuns who taught me did! Used to see them on the washing line at the convent!

Do they wear bloomers under that uniform Jeni? Now I'll always wonder

Come on in. Room for all.
As they used to say about queen Victoria's bloomers .

Or was it the Salvation Army?

Kali, Vampire, Jeni You are not alone even if it may feell like it at times. There are others who understand if you will just let them in.

Kali Vampirequeen

That was a kind and understanding post Jeni let's all hang in there shall we?

Meant to add

Kalihugs to you as we'll
Only one pair of arms though I'm afraid.

vampirequeen and hugs to you as well.
Go and get your teeth into something that you like!

I know what you mean. I've been there.
But unluckily for you I'm still around!

Vampire ((((hugs))))

When I'm in suicide mode it's not really death I'm seeking but oblivion. A sort of non existance if that makes sense.

I suspect that people almost always commit suicide because they don't want to go on living rather than because they actively want to be dead. I'm not even sure that it's actually possible actively to want death as opposed to not wanting life.

Kali I am sorry to hear that you are not feeling like a tough old boot at the moment and hope you start feeling better – and life starts getting easier and more pleasurable – soon. May I point out that I didn't put "someone" in the sentence you quote in bold and that doing so implies something I never intended.

Tegan I echo every word of your post. (hug)

If there's something bad going on in your life the worst part of the day is when you wake up in the morning and, as you emerge from the comfort of sleep, the awfullness descends on you. Sometimes you don't actually want to be dead but you just want to stay asleep to avoid that awful moment where unconsciousness turns into consciousness.

Kali Having gone through the hell of suicidal thoughts, your post makes perfect sense. To be in such a lonely locked-in state of mind, is a living nightmare. My heart goes out to anyone who understands what it is I'm trying to convey. You can only understand if you've been there...

Yes Movedalot I think you are probably right. Somehow the thought of living must seem so much worse than not being here at all.

for all those either posting or lurking who really understand what this is about because they have been there or someone they love dearly has. You know who you are.

I believe that sometime people commit suicide, not because they want to die, but because they can't face living. There is a fine difference.

I am here for you if you need it, any of you.

Butty Thank you for drawing my attention to the earlier post by Joan. I too had missed it.

Joan I totally understand how you must have been feeling.

Butty you clearly understand exactly what it is. I do think the term is used flippantly at times and that is OK with me as long as it is clear that it is flippant. Here is & in case you need them.

I have 2 issues with whatever terminology is used:

1 When people think it is something the sufferer has control over and think they are exagerating an easy to get over bad spell so don't treat it seriously.

2 When people use the terminology to describe how they are feeling when in fact they have no idea what it is really like to suffer with it.