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Sleepless toddler - family at end of tether

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Mishap Sun 07-Apr-13 13:16:15

My poor DD and her OH are at their wits' end - 18 month old boy has never slept and he just screams the place down for hours if he doesn't get attention when he wakes at night. They really are doing all the right things: peaceful bedtime routine, putting him back down when he wakes with no interaction.

The basic problem is that he uses my DD's boobs (or anyone else's he can get his hands on - including mine!) as a comforter and will not be weaned on to anything else however hard they try. He really is a beefy chap with a bellow like a bull so it is impossible to ignore him unless you put him to bed next door!

He wakes up his 4 year old brother who is now having disturbed nights too!

Poor DD had serious ante-natal depression so did not sleep throughout her pregnancy - I leave you to do the maths on how long it is since she had a proper night's sleep!

I have sent off for two things for her:a Ewan the sheep which goes in the cot and glows and produced white noise; some Serenite Junior (herbal sleeping drops for little ones), which costs an arm and several legs!!!

Does anyone have experience of either of these? - or any other ideas?

Thanks

NotSpaghetti Tue 08-Aug-23 17:37:31

grin

MerylStreep Tue 08-Aug-23 17:21:52

If ever there was a thread where RTFT was more apt, this has got to be it. 🤦🏼‍♀️

NotSpaghetti Tue 08-Aug-23 17:21:20

I think this thread still has its merits Georgesgran grin

Farzanah Tue 08-Aug-23 17:16:20

It’d be interesting to know if the now 12 year old subject of the OP did ever get off to sleep alone
Hope so. 😀

Foxygloves Tue 08-Aug-23 17:04:58

Callistemon21

ElaineI

Ewan the sheep is very good as is My Hummy - 2 DGC have this and it can be programmed to last all night. 18 months is still very young though.

Twelve is rather too old for Ewan the Sheep, though.

I won’t risk a comment about sheep! 🐑

Georgesgran Tue 08-Aug-23 17:00:07

OMG - THIS THREAD IS 10 YEARS OLD!!!!
LET IT GO …….

NanKate Tue 08-Aug-23 16:57:39

We used to have a rule we put up with the crying etc for 3 nights in a row and then on the fourth night we gave our DS a spoonful of Phenergan ! He is now 49 and in good health.

I am not recommending this procedure but it worked for us. 👍

Oldbat1 Tue 08-Aug-23 13:26:34

I had a non sleeper! We were exhausted. She didnt cry thank goodness but just wanted to be awake and playing. My ambition was to go to bed after her and for me to get up refreshed before her. She didn't sleep through the night until she was 5years old. (She did have a traumatic birth with numerous operations required plus spent 10weeks in an incubator - in those days they kept lights on the babies all the time).

ElaineI Tue 08-Aug-23 13:11:56

Ha didn't realise it was an old post. Still might be of use to someone.

Callistemon21 Mon 07-Aug-23 22:30:18

ElaineI

Ewan the sheep is very good as is My Hummy - 2 DGC have this and it can be programmed to last all night. 18 months is still very young though.

Twelve is rather too old for Ewan the Sheep, though.

Georgesgran Mon 07-Aug-23 21:20:49

You are norty Foxy.

Foxygloves Mon 07-Aug-23 21:12:14

At that age I'd suggest co-sleeping and letting him feed at night
And maybe lay in a supply of coke and pizzas. .

Foxygloves Mon 07-Aug-23 21:11:04

I’d ask his girlfriend round - that would solve the problem 🤣🤣🤣

Georgesgran Mon 07-Aug-23 21:03:17

Bloody Hell Elaine1.
This thread is 10 years old and no longer relevant.
READ THE LAST FEW POSTS!

ElaineI Mon 07-Aug-23 21:01:11

Ewan the sheep is very good as is My Hummy - 2 DGC have this and it can be programmed to last all night. 18 months is still very young though.

MerylStreep Mon 07-Aug-23 08:10:57

ClareAB

At that age I'd suggest co-sleeping and letting him feed at night. All kids are different and this is an exhausting, pointless battle when the solution could be so much easier on mum and babe. There are no 'shoulds' with this, one of my granddaughers co-slept and breast fed until she was four.

There you go. What did I say 🤦🏼‍♀️

silverlining48 Mon 07-Aug-23 07:58:58

No problem Louella, it’s easily done. smile

Louella12 Sun 06-Aug-23 22:48:47

I do beg all your pardons

Ì am shame faced about contributing to an ancient thread

Louella12 Sun 06-Aug-23 22:45:52

Bags

Co-sleep?

That's what we did. Never had sleepless nights. I know it's not for everyone but it worked for all of ours.

Callistemon21 Sun 06-Aug-23 22:35:38

I didn't say anything 😁

Foxygloves Sun 06-Aug-23 22:34:45

@Callistemon - ooh norty winkshockwink

Callistemon21 Sun 06-Aug-23 22:08:45

Madgran77

Mishap

This little chap does not feed from the breast he just likes to stroke it (anyone's will do!) - my DD finishes up leaning over the cot for him to fondle her boobs.

I have sent her the link to the programme (for which lots of thanks) and I hope that she will take some of the advice there.

Basically there is an underlying emotional issue - conceiving him (and his sibling) was hard, the pregnancy was hard, the birth was hard. There will be no more children as it is too risky (and certainly not if the sleep problems mean she and her OH never finish up in bed together!). So he is the last child, much-wanted and achieved at enormous cost in so many ways. Leting go and being firm is hard, which is why I never press her on it and leave them to find their own way.

I hope that the link to the programme and the two gifts I have sent will give some advice and comfort and the knowledge that she is not alone.

Could you find something that would feel similar for him to stroke ...needs to be a suitable material that it is made of to resemble soft skin! I know this sounds a bit weird but if that has become his comforter then he clearly needs an equivalent!

I'm not posting what I'm thinking. It might get deleted 😁

Foxygloves Sun 06-Aug-23 22:06:41

@madgran kindly meant but he must be TWELVE by now!

Madgran77 Sun 06-Aug-23 21:28:43

Mishap

This little chap does not feed from the breast he just likes to stroke it (anyone's will do!) - my DD finishes up leaning over the cot for him to fondle her boobs.

I have sent her the link to the programme (for which lots of thanks) and I hope that she will take some of the advice there.

Basically there is an underlying emotional issue - conceiving him (and his sibling) was hard, the pregnancy was hard, the birth was hard. There will be no more children as it is too risky (and certainly not if the sleep problems mean she and her OH never finish up in bed together!). So he is the last child, much-wanted and achieved at enormous cost in so many ways. Leting go and being firm is hard, which is why I never press her on it and leave them to find their own way.

I hope that the link to the programme and the two gifts I have sent will give some advice and comfort and the knowledge that she is not alone.

Could you find something that would feel similar for him to stroke ...needs to be a suitable material that it is made of to resemble soft skin! I know this sounds a bit weird but if that has become his comforter then he clearly needs an equivalent!

Fleurpepper Sun 06-Aug-23 20:58:34

MerylStreep

Sago

I hope he’s weaned off the breast😬

Very good 😂

Bitty mummy !

Actually it would be very interesting to hear how he turned out.