Bach flower "remedies" no longer licences.

I did not think Bach ever made claims to be medicinal. Flower remedies are to do with the emotions, nothing physical. I seem to recall that Nelson bought out the company, so they will only be interested in reducing the opposition, if that's true.

Lots of things are being struck off because the manufacturers cannot afford all the tests required rather than because they are not efficacious

Exactly, Flickety. Even herbs that have been in use for centuries. It's only the big companies with lots of money behind them that can afford the research. What price aspirin?
Actually, strange tale about that. After anyone has a heart attack, they are often given soluble aspirin to thin the blood. Soluble aspirin contains sodium, which puts blood pressure up. Raised blood pressure can cause heart attack!

I don't know how Bach Flower "remedies" get away with it. Must be one of the biggest cons of modern times!

Bach flowers remedies don't get away with anything jingle, if as you claim - a con, there are thousands of gullible people using the remedies , if not a con, thousands of people are helped by taking them . I don't accept the placebo effect, they work for very young children and animals

The amount of Na in an aspirin is negligible, it's the anticoagulant effect that it's given for.

I know exactly what I take it for, Galen. "As it's not much, you may as well carry on umtil you see the specialist, and ask him," said my GP.
However, it was the BMJ that did the study and the NHS website shows concerns. A lot of people who take Aspirin take multiple tablets.
If you have soluble paracetamol, and take the maximum daily number, you have your daily allowance of sodium in those tablets.
The NHS website suggests that doctors and pharmacists should look at the sodium content of the medication they give to people. There are usually non-sodium equivalents.

yes you would have to chomp down a lot of aspiring to get enough sodium to put your BP up.
How do you know they work on children and animals annie ? Do they make goats feel more motivated and chickens more chilled out?

Isn't it just the effervescent tablets that contain salt? I think the ones you just swallow have a good deal less.

The chair of the GPC prescribing committee does not agree with you JessM. Do you know how much there is in any tablet, because I cannot find out?
Yes, Bags, I did say soluble Aspirin, but that's the form they give you, even in hospital, just in case you have stomach problems when you take the other form.

As far as Bach remedies are concerned, it does not matter whether they work through the placebo effect or not so long as they work. I believe the tales of them working on dogs, cats and horses. I do not care if people think I am gullible. I know they work.
Whenever my son took exams he was always really uptight, which upset his digestive system. Bach flower remedies calmed him down. He did not care how or why they worked.

I'm saying nothing.

For once.

durhamjen, they realy do work, I have worked with them since the eighties, I now have mothers who were given the remedies when they were in school asking for them for their children

mmmmmm........

What line of work are you in Anniebach?

Retired jingle, but never worked in medicine ,

I did wonder about the name, or is that just coincidence? Like I said, I know they work, too.
Do you think we've managed to shut Jingle up?

I didn't notice the name!!!!

Are you one of the family???

Any pharmacists in the house?

I can understand how the placebo effect might work in some people - the power of suggestion "here's something for the pain" - Or the authority of the white coat.
But animals?
And as someone pointed out BFRs are recommended for emotional states (see link).
Do how do you know that the cat is feeling less despondent, weighed down by responsibility or filled with self-hatred after you've dosed it annie we would like to know what you are talking about when you say they work? Or are you just winding me up?

www.bachcentre.com/centre/remedies.htm
sorry i forgot to blue the original link:
www.nightingale-collaboration.org/news/157-bach-flower-remedies-foods-not-medicines.html

Or it could be that as Annie is Welsh, the 'bach' is just a term of affection...

Oh yes. Shame.

durhamjen, if someone has decided the remedies do not work one cannot convince them that they do. I became interested in the remedies in the seventies , my husband was away for a few weeks, our five year old started bed wetting, I took her to the GP just to have her checked , he prescribed an anti depressant for her! I took her to a Homeopath practioner - and a GP , he gave the remedies

Which one could I try for lack of motivation? (Probably better known as laziness)

Lol at the cat weighed down by responsibilities.