Don't wash your chicken

All over your kitchen worktops, I said, Bags. If you're going to criticise what I say, get it right. I know that chicken is meat. Some people do not, because they say they are vegetarian but they eat chicken. Gets vegetarians a bad name.

I have heard that too, one of DS's girlfriends said she was vegetarian but ate chicken. She didn't last long thank goodness - because of the woolly thinking not the vegetarianism.

Still can't catch the chicken, it is roosting somewhere. It does need a bath though. And the dishcloth visited the washing machine for the first time this afternoon!

Just gave it a quick wipe-round, eh rosequartz?

Sorry, djen, my mistake. But it wouldn't even be "all over" my kitchen worktops. "All over" is an exaggeration whether it's the worktops or the whole kitchen so no retraction.

I've known people who call themselves vegetarian who eat fish. I wouldn't go so far as to say they give vegetarians a bad name, as the ones I've known have been pleasant people. I think it's the grumpy air of moral superiority that some vegetarians exude that gives those vegetarians a bad name.

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No good, it is going back into the bleach later on (the dishcloth, not the chicken).

Oh dear, mustn't drink on a Monday. It was left over from yesterday.

Waste not, want not, rosequartz!

I remember Delia's suggestion of what to do with leftover wine (freeze in icecube trays).

Leftover

Now that would be a waste...

There's no such thing as leftover wine. There might be such a thing as drink-it-later wine or drink-it-tomorrow wine.

What gives vegetarians a bad name are people who do not know that fish and chicken are not eaten by vegetarians, and therefore say they are vegetarians when they are not. Real vegetarians then end up having to justify themselves even to caterers who should know better.
I have known caterers who did not know that anchovies were fish. When asked one said, "Aren't they vegetables?"
The OP said washing chicken "splashes food poisoning germs around your kitchen." That sounds worse than all over your worktops to me.
I have my food hygiene certificates, but I am sure they have probably run out by now.

Blimey, I didn't realise you needed food hygiene certificates for your own kitchen!

I haven't washed chicken for years, not since DS and I watched a schools programme back in the 80's that demonstrated how easy it was to spread germs from a chicken onto everything you touched. You don't have to turn the taps full on to start splashing the germs around, even a gentle flow will produce more splashes than you think. I know that hot water and soap will cope with most things, but I do use bleach when I've had raw chicken out.

A thing that does worry me is the number of women I see in supermarkets letting their small children get packs of chicken off the shelves. They then go back to eating their packet of crisps or biscuits with unwashed hands. I always treat the packaging as if it's as infected as the contents might be.

I only call myself a demi-veggie or piscetarian - ie. I eat fish.

The phrase about germs being splashed around the kitchen/ a kitchen/ one's kitchen was an exaggeration too. It could happen but it's not inevitable.

I'm not arguing that washing chicken is a good idea, just with the idea that washing chicken will inevitably contaminate something. There's a big difference between a possible contamination and an inevitable one. There's also a big difference between cleaning up contamination and not cleaning it up.

So, what I'm arguing is that it's possible to wash raw chicken without contaminating splashing germs around one's kitchen or, even if germs do get splashed around, to clean them up effectively, i.e. so as not to suffer any unpleasant effects.

I do not wash chicken.

Are all chickens contaminated?

No.

Elsewhere I find I'm reading the word 'citizen' as 'chicken'! Time I left this thread

I assumed not - so what is the panic!

This article seems to think about 97% Kitty

97% retail chickens contaminated

I'm surprised as I wouldn't have thought it that high. I think best to treat them all as if they were anyway.

On television they were saying about 60% could be contaminated. That's an American article isn't it Aka ? They do say things are a bit better in Europe, which presumably means us.

Just had a text from student son asking whether chicken with sell by date of 28th May, but has been frozen, then taken out of freezer and left in fridge for three days is ok to eat? My instinct is no, because I am hyper fussy, luckily his Dad is out this evening for he would say yes, go ahead. How does it smell? A bit funny but not sure if it is normal funny or off funny. Well, I wouldn't eat it, but your dad (the aerobic digester) probably would. If I have any doubt I wouldnt enjoy it anyway, but he is a poor student and craves fajitas.......

I'd say if he cooks it thoroughly (even over-cooks it) it should be OK. If it was frozen before the sell-by date that's apparently fine, and I think most meat/poultry smells a bit whiffy when you take it out of its wrapper anyway...

good point ana, maybe I will text him back and tell him to overcook it

Chicken is cooked and eaten as he couldnt waste £3.50 worth of chicken. Said he will let me know if it makes him ill. Great.