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Will this advert make you exercise more?

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janeainsworth Thu 15-Jan-15 14:04:52

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Sport England's new advert, intended to encourage women to exercise more, seems to have ruffled a few feathers.........

soontobe Thu 15-Jan-15 14:15:53

I could only bear to read about 1/3 of that link.

tanith Thu 15-Jan-15 15:18:47

I saw them talking about this the other morning on Breakfast, they were saying they had tried to include women of every kind, young, old, fat, thin, disabled and able bodied of every creed and colour to show women that no matter who you are you can excercise in one way or another.
It wouldn't make excercise but I suppose anything that sets you thinking in that direction can't hurt.

Sorry I didn't have time to read the link I will later..

anniezzz09 Thu 15-Jan-15 15:42:50

They had a very good discussion of this on Woman's Hour, I think last Friday. It sounds ridiculous, apparently the first image or statement is something like 'I'm ..... and I wobble' or have wobbly bits or something because they think women are put off sport by having wobbly bits!

Jenny Murray made the good point that they wouldn't address men in this way. Interestingly I seem to remember a man commenting afterwards in the posts they read out that it's a fallacy to think all men are sporty and confident.

Why don't they research these campaigns properly and find out why some women exercise and others don't and why don't they especially tackle girls at school which is where non exercising often begins.

On the programme they had a young woman who explained that she had taken up cycling but decorated her bike with flowers and things and that she wore ordinary clothes 'so that no one would make any judgments'. A wealth to think about there.

crun Thu 15-Jan-15 15:49:02

Todays news: Inactivity kills twice as many as obesity.

janeainsworth Thu 15-Jan-15 15:51:46

Annie the title is 'I jiggle, therefore I am' what does that mean, FFS.

I did find the commentary a little abstruse and perhaps I should have put it in the Feminism forum instead.

The final paragraph is a good summary of the objections:

"It’s disappointing that a campaign to get women more physically active doesn’t focus on how exercise strengthens friendship, reduces the stress of work and care and gives us physical and emotional strength. And we suppose it would be far too much to ask to see a campaign that shows exercise as an opportunity to find an active space outside the cult of body worship and display".

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 15-Jan-15 15:56:38

doesn't it mean that all women can partake in exercise - including the ones amongst us with wobbly bits?

I doubt if it will actually get more women to exercise, but the idea behind it seems ok.

What could anyone possibly have against it?

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 15-Jan-15 15:58:42

"The Conversation. Academic rigour. Journalistic flair"

Really?!

NfkDumpling Thu 15-Jan-15 16:03:11

No, it won't make me excercises more - or wear a bikini!

janeainsworth Thu 15-Jan-15 16:07:55

One objection is that it refers to all women as 'girls', and this language in itself will put off a lot of older women.
Another is that rather than identify the health benefits of exercise, the video focusses simply on the women's bodies, reinforcing the idea that women;'s bodies are the only important thing about them.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 15-Jan-15 16:09:24

Your body is the most important thing.

I always think of myself as a girl. grin and hopefully always will.

janeainsworth Thu 15-Jan-15 16:10:02

I see you're in sneering mode again jingl. Why don't you make some constructive ctiricism for a change?

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 15-Jan-15 16:11:41

Exercise today is primarily promoted to save the health service money. The benefits to us personally are secondary. But they are still there. So it's ok.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 15-Jan-15 16:12:11

I am being constructive.

FlicketyB Thu 15-Jan-15 16:23:19

Why are all those officially involved so obsessed with getting us involved in Sport. I find all this relentless obsession with Sport and the way they keep constantly going on about it makes the concept of doing Sport profoundly unattractive and off putting.

I lead and have always led an active life. I enjoy going swimming, I walk a lot, garden etc. These are all things I do non-competitively for the pleasure they give me.

One of the outstanding points of the reports in the media today that crun referred to was the gentle relaxed way the academic publishing the research talked about the way people could up their activity. He talked about a brisk walk to or from work, or at lunch time or some other time of the day.

I think more people would be more active if more was said of the pleasures of being active, of taking an interest in the landscape around you, whether urban, suburban or rural. In towns the mundane architecture can be interesting on seeing where 19th century housing ends and inter-wars semis start, looking at architectural detailing on house, what street names tell you about when roads were built. When I worked in Central London I found all sorts of useful little shops and tradesmen when I spent my lunch hours walking round the area where I worked, wandering down side streets and into cul-de-sacs

Teetime Thu 15-Jan-15 16:27:23

I have juts ask my marathon running DD2 for advice re buying running shoes as I am toying with the idea of starting - she says they are £100 - whatever happened to plimsoles?

FarNorth Thu 15-Jan-15 17:09:11

I read the article first, and agreed with the points made. But then I watched the video and I liked it.
It did show women having a good time together and I think it could appeal to young women, maybe more than to us old codgers.
OK, it's not perfect but it's not so bad, I think.

goldengirl Thu 15-Jan-15 17:36:18

Water off a ducks back for me. I'm sticking to my Pilates and Gymophobics because they suit my body, I enjoy them and they are doing me good - none of them are because of a TV advert

Leticia Thu 15-Jan-15 17:39:32

You do need proper running shoes if you take up running- plimsolls are not good. I took it up on retirement and shoes make a huge difference- I got mine half price in a sale.

anniezzz09 Thu 15-Jan-15 21:06:41

Teetime, if you have a Decathlon near you, you can find very good value running shoes and a guarantee that you can try them and bring them back if they don't suit.

jane I didn't have time to read right to the end of the article. I do agree that the focus on women's bodies is offensive but of course, it reflects the way women are viewed. On the Woman's Hour programme I mentioned, one woman who described herself as tough and professional related an anecdote about being out running and being verbally abused by a man and she ended up in tears at home and didn't go out running again for two weeks. I suppose that's why the main thrust of the campaign is to encourage women to exercise in order to overcome 'the barrier of judgment'. Isn't that though like trying to make you give up chocolate by talking about chocolate?!

Women who are overweight tend to already feel bad about their bodies, it doesn't help to emphasize wobbly bits in an ad. I'm actually qualified to teach adults to cycle and I teach exercise classes too. I think there are lots of other things to consider - in my experience, many women lack confidence to go out of the door, let alone to join a group of relative strangers and be confronted by being asked take part in activities that may make them feel uncomfortable in body and mind. If they come with a friend and come often enough to realise that they feel better in various ways (brighter, less stressed, slimmer, more flexible, coordinated, making friends), then they'll usually stay. Also, the key thing is that exercise should be enjoyable, it's not good forcing someone into an exercise that just bores them to tears. Jenny Murray is an unabashed couch potato and is always funny when she talks about how it just isn't for her. And who's to say that if she enjoys life, it matters? grin

Having looked at the actual website though, www.thisgirlcan.co.uk/, I'm grinding my teeth!

janerowena Thu 15-Jan-15 22:22:31

It's the words they choose that make me cringe. I find it very offputting.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 15-Jan-15 22:49:18

They're all very young. hmm

Obviously not meant for us. (So I shall go to bed without doing the half hour I intended to do on my exercise bike)

Ana Thu 15-Jan-15 22:52:00

'Sweating like a pig, feeling like a fox.' Yeah...hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 15-Jan-15 22:59:41

I've cleaned the inside of one window today. That'll do for one day. grin

absent Fri 16-Jan-15 03:07:18

Any grandparent who spends an 8-hour day looking after a lively two-year-old probably gets more than enough exercise. Not to mention demonstrating how to do cartwheels to older children, playing football and piggy-in-the-middle, taking them swimming and running about getting meals, snacks and drinks as if one is running a café.