Being overweight increases incidence of cancer

My DH, who was treated for cancer last year, is, and always has been, as thin as a rake. He has type 2 diabetes too.

Yes, about 10-20% of people with type 2 diabetes are normal weight and 80-90% are overweight or obese apparently.

Jess yes, I agree about the marketing ploy and it's not confined to food.
I had another oxymoronic moment this morning when I got an email from Uniqlo advertising 'everyday luxury' in the form of silk shirts.
It would be interesting to trace the origins of this modern idea that we are all 'worth it'.

I don't eat my treats because "I'm worth it". I eat them because I like them but janea is right, they are part of my whole diet, not extras. I still regard them as treats though. If I were as poor as many people in the world, I wouldn't get them. I appreciate my luck in being able to eat nice and nourishing food every day.

I'm sure you don't bags but people, and women in particular, are bombarded with this and I don't suppose the advertisers would do it if it didn't work on some of the people, some of the time.
Katyk just because those who are overweight are more prone to certain illnesses does not mean that everyone who gets those illnesses is overweight.

Bags I may be wrong but I imagine that the majority of your 'treats' have been made in your own kitchen and that your decision to eat them is based on a logical thought process and not the result of impulse

Many people do however base their eating decisions on impulse and many of those decisions include a feeling of reward or consolation for the various miseries of life.

It's my personal view that advertisers and marketing people have exploited some people's insecurities and self-esteem issues by implying that we somehow deserve these rewards for coping with what life throws at us, or helping us to get over life's little disappointments, or even big ones.

I think this is one factor in the increase in obesity levels.

I absolutely agree with you JaneA.
Did anyone watch the programme about sugar last night? Horrific, especially the hidden sugars in processed "savoury" food.

30 years ago DH had a suspected stomach ulcer and his Dr put him on a reduced sugar diet. As he already didn't put sugar in drinks or on cereal, we researched the hidden sugars in food and were amazed, even sausages had sugar.

He certainly lost weight on this eating regime, he was thin to start with, but it seemed to sort the problem.

Reduced sugar products such as jam are easier to get nowadays. I didn't like reduced sugar peanut butter!

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Sugar is the new devil incarnate. It used to be fat, but fat's been forgiven now apparently.

mamie which channel was the programme on?

Not totally forgiven by all KatyK

The role of fats in heart disease seems to be very complicated. But it does now appear that some saturated fats are less heart clogging than had initially been suggested. The general medical advice is not to take this as the all clear for all fats and indulge in a feeding frenzy.

Moderation is never going to hurt!

Transfats (sometimes lurking under other names) are a definate NoNo.

Jane it was BBC 1 I think 9 - 10.00 pm

I agree re moderation Anya. I try my best. I'm 65 and never been ill (she says touching wood), not really overweight, don't get colds, sore throats, headaches ever, so perhaps moderation is the key. is my only vice and I'm waiting for the health police to start on that one.

I watched that programme. It made me crave jam tarts.

The people I know who are fine, health wise, and in their 60s, also say moderation.

I made a lot of jam last autumn.

Perhaps it won't be so bad for me in jam tarts

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jingl I didn’t say that the fish pie is unhealthy, it’s just expensive. Soon asked for examples of processed foods I eat, so that was what I listed. I wasn’t claiming they’re healthy, but I’ve just noticed that Soon asked specifically for healthy processed foods, so it does look that way. I refer you back to what I said about healthy diets and healthy meals, it’s my overall diet that’s healthy, not those particular foodstuffs, and that’s because they’re a relatively small proportion of the total.

As I said you could go round in circles arguing about what constitutes healthy, but the FSA have devised a Nutrient Profile Score, which reduces the nutritional value of foodstuffs to a single index number to enable convenient comparisons. Ofgem already use this NPS to decide which products are banned from advertising to children, so it could be used for adults too. Cambridge University recently used the NPS to show that healthy foodstuffs are typically more expensive too (which is where I discovered it).

Someone suggested taxing unhealthy foods, but people who exercise consume a lot of calories too, not just the obese, so taxing food would be an indirect tax on exercising. I think it would be better to increase the NI contributions of the obese.

This is a lecture from Susan Jebb, Professor of Diet and Population Health at Oxford, the graphic at 6m 35s is interesting. As I thought, the real culprits are not so much the processed foods that make a meal (some of which I do eat), but the likes of cakes, chocolate, fizzy drinks etc., which I never buy. I eat almost nothing from the top third of the chart, and huge quantities from the bottom third, in particular, fruit, veg, cereal, and wholemeal bread.

My “treat” would be a few biscuits, but in general, I find it’s better to cut out the bad things altogether. Firstly, you don’t keep reminding yourself of what you miss, and secondly, you don’t have to keep checking that you’re sticking to a ration. I used to have a serious cheese habit, but I cut it out and just treat myself to a piece of stilton at Xmas now.

To repeat, you don’t need to be a gourmet cooking everything from scratch in order to eat a healthy diet.

can anyone tell me of a brand of low sugar yoghurt, looking in the supermarket the other day I couldn't find one with less then 13% sugars.
I like yoghurt as it is convenient and easy and like other people I just cant be bothered to cook for myself every day.
I also find it hard to find food that is easy to carry around and I get very hungry if Im out, I used to take packed oatcakes etc but they are so dull.
all convenient food is dull and sugary. Theres not much hope for us unless we are terribly self disciplined.

I buy natural yoghurt and add stewed or fresh fruit ethelbags, sometimes just a little honey. Put some in little pots for work.
Rice cakes and peanut butter is my current favourite snack or twiglets.

Check this out Ethel

This link will tell you all you need to know. Loopy is right about natural yoghurts too.

PS I think you'll need to work backwards

I sometimes buy Liberté yogurts, they do contain 11.4 sugars but they are quite small.

Mostly I buy a big pot of greek style yogurt, Total, Yeo Valley etc and add some fruit.