Plus size models

I saw in the paper today a mother who spent £350 a month to prepare her 10 year old daughter for Beauty Pageants, what a waste of money and also giving the wrong messages to the child.

In addition the mother was overweight and the child looked as if she was a little over weight too

IMO Instead of spending time putting makeup on the child's face they could be doing something more healthy such as chasing around the park or doing some sport.

Those female models are beautiful! I appreciate the plus-size modelling as well, but I agree that sometimes, it seems as though they are saying it is okay to be overweight when it really isn't. Nor is it okay to be underweight, looking at usual models and their sometimes over-the-top petiteness. The perfect weight is the healthy weight!

I think people talk about your weight more so if you are extremely skinny. People have always been talking behind my back, saying that I'm anorexic/bulimic. Lies, I tell you! Usually if I hear something of someone's weight, it's usually a skinny person, people saying she'll break in half next time she carries that heavy bag, that she's vomiting her food back up, that she starves herself or is on a diet if she eats a salad for lunch.

Models, I'm not pressured by them. Same with actors and singers. I don't feel pressured at all. It sickens me when I see the ribs of some models.

I find it ironic - the famous feel self-concious and such because they are constantly in front of the camera (as well as harsh remarks from the press and fans) so they diet, and then, we the people , feeling pressured in a society filled with commercials and billboards and ads with those skinny stars, begin to diet with the want to look like them.

It's an endless cycle.

Sounds like I could be KatyK!

Loopy are you my twin? I am a size 14 but can sometimes fit into a 12 or need a 16. I am 5ft 6, 10st 10lb and a 6-7 shoe!

I came across. Store in Florida a few years ago, where all the clothes were actually labelled a size smaller than they actually were. Don't ask me why.

It's weird, I must admit.Must be the vanity sizing that lots of stores go in for.

I agree that shoe sizes have changed as well. When I was a teenager and young woman, I was always size 6.5, or 7 if they didn't do half sizes.

Now size 6 usually fits me perfectly in most brands, even 5.5 occasionally! I thought your feet were supposed to 'spread' as you get older...

That's what makes online and actual shopping for clothes so irritating FlicketyB, no standardised sizing.

I'm anything from a size 12 to a 16 depending on which brand; I'm 5'6", 10st 10lb and curvy.....also

Shoe sizing is just as difficult I've been size 7 for years, now I seem to have variable sized feet somewhere between sizes 6 & 7!

At 18, 5' 4". I weigh 9 1/2 stone and all my clothes were size 14. Size 12 was too small. Wind forward 45 years, 2 stone heavier and I was still wearing size 14. My height has shrunk by an inch and I have now lost the 2 stone and my clothes now are size 10/12.

I gather its called sized inflation, but surely it should be called size deflation.

Plus size is always a size bigger than I am.

I always thought that plus size was anything from size 18 upwards. not that it matters anyway, as if the item fits you, it doesn't matter what the label size says. about ten years ago, I was a size 14 and had to buy a size 20 in M&S for a cheesecloth shirt I wanted.Bizarre.
I didn't see the tv episode of plus size models, but think it's sad that there are so many obese teenagers/young women around just now.If it's not a health issue, and most are not, it would be better to lose weight than'celebrate' being so big.It seems a form of being in denial.At the other end of the spectrum you get size 10 girls thinking they are fat.When women are older though, weight does pile on and is not as easy to shift.

GM, size 16 is perfect

How large is plus size? I know i'm overweight, and wear size 16 however when i was younger and very slim indeed i don't think i ever wore smaller that size 12 as an adult! I am tall (5'10"). am I fated to always be described as plus sized?

Evans (remember when it used to be called 'the Outsize shop') clothes start at 14.

If you Google plus size clothing lots of sites come up with 'Plus size clothing, size 14-36'.

Sizes have definitely changed, and not just at M&S.

Twenty years ago I was an average size 12. I still have two skirts from back then but can barely get into them now, suggesting that I would need at least a 14 now if sizes were still the same. But guess what - these days I need a size 10 or 12, and even a 10 is sometimes too big in some shops!

Don't spoil the illusion that I've shrunk Ana
I take their size 14 in jeggings so I suspect it depends on the range you're buying from.

I think M&S sizes have always been bigger than other makes. I have to get a size smaller in most of their range, especially trousers.

Sorry, got that wrong way round!
Size 14 then is a size 12 now

At least 25+ years for me...however, I'm absolutely convinced M&S sizes have 'grown' over that time so a size 14 then is a size 16 now

I haven't been able to get into a size 12 jean since I was - well - 12 years old

The program I watched said that the fashion industry considered anything over size 10 to be plus size, see this on wiki :-

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus-size_clothing

As I said earlier, what a load of tosh.

Fashion designers want models to look like coat hangers so there's little altering required I guess.
If size 16 is average then I would think several sizes higher before you hit so-called Plus size.
Certainly at a size 14 I would be very affronted to be told I was Plus sized!

Actually feeling rather chuffed - bought a pair of size 12 jeans today!!! Can't remember last time I could get into a size 12

Size 14 is a plus size? Since when? I think the average size woman in the UK is a size 16 so where does plus size start? Did the programme say?

I think the problem is that for years clothes have been designed for and modelled by tall thin girls who are nothing like the rest of us. So now the pendulum has swung and we have very over weight models. When will we see women who have ordinary bodies? Neither of the extremes is healthy of course, there's osteoporosis and possible infertility for the underweight and high blood pressure and diabetes for the over. Lets have women who are shapely. (A few older models would be nice as well!)