Illness, mental and physical

But the whole thing is more than a "win" or "lose" situation.

Sometimes in life it is better to "lose", than to not speak out.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean, soon. I know I used the word loser but that was no a summation of the whole episode.

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The paragraph about the scout leader and the paragraph before that, speak to me of you not wanting to "lose".

But someone losing a point or being seen to be "losing", is not as important an issue, as KJ acknowledging or whatever, the insult. Else, how can the insult be dealt with? And the insulter be dealt with?

Apologies POGS for getting the wrong sister's name - despite checking it before posting!

thatbags as poster with long term problems depression, if someone made KL's comments to me, I would be too shocked to say much back. I think I would have to excuse myself. If the comments were made in the hearing of others, I would like to think someone would speak up. I would decide what to do next based on the circumstances, but I not let it go. I am done with pushing down anger and making excuses for people. Thank goodness we're living in a more enlightened age and the behaviour of dinosaurs like KL's have no place in the public service of this country.

I am not sure if I agree with the idea that some people will always be insulted, at least not those with depression.

soon, I thought I explained what I meant by the scout leader being the loser: he lost my respect for a time because of his gross misjudgment of me.
When it became clear that he was sorry for being an arsehole, he regained my respect.

wilmak, no problem with people expressing their anger at stuff. See above.