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Is nagging good for us?

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janeainsworth Tue 02-Feb-16 18:12:36

I've just heard on the news that the Chief Medical Officer wants us all to think of our increased cancer risk every time we pour ourselves a glass of wine.
Cheers, everyone!
Bottoms up!grin
winewinewine

Ana Tue 02-Feb-16 18:21:13

It's enough to drive you to drink...grin

winewinewine

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 02-Feb-16 18:33:24

confused

How daft can people get. hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 02-Feb-16 18:33:53

How does that come anywhere near funny ja?

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 02-Feb-16 18:34:12

Bloody irresponsible.

Ana Tue 02-Feb-16 18:48:15

So you do everything you're told by the 'experts' do you, jingl? It must be a wonderful view from that high moral plain...hmm

Alea Tue 02-Feb-16 18:56:10

I think that so much conflicting advice comes from the so-called experts, I would rather use my own common sense.
I could think of how my risk of heart disease is diminishing for instance, or alternatively think how I am ingesting more calories shock but again, if it relieves tension I am probably going to be a nicer person to be near and not bite people's heads off in a curmudgeonly way.

Falling off your high horse can also be injurious to your health you know hmm

M0nica Tue 02-Feb-16 19:14:32

What a misery. Life is a fatal disease! I do not drink much and when I do, a large glass of red wine with a good meal, the very last thing I am going to think about this humourless puritan and her advice.

The thing that amazes me is that it has never occurred to her that the response to her advice is going to be a gesture and an extra drink, not an immediate cutting back.

Do you remember that advertising campaign that tried to discourage youngsters from taking drugs. It showed lots of wan wasted people who took drugs and spawned Kate Moss and heroine chic.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 02-Feb-16 19:26:33

I am not on a high horse. I think it's irresponsible to practically cheer each other on to ignore current health advice.

ffinnochio Tue 02-Feb-16 19:27:18

I've just enjoyed a very long leisurely chat with my sister, accompanied by a very long glass of chilled Chablis. The CMO's advice never crossed my mind. Cheers, jaineain wine

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 02-Feb-16 19:29:50

" the response to her advice is going to be a gesture and an extra drink, not an immediate cutting back."

That would be a childish response wouldn't it?

thatbags Tue 02-Feb-16 19:37:26

"every time"?

What nonsense.

thatbags Tue 02-Feb-16 19:39:25

"every" blessed time!?

I simply don't believe she actually thinks one needs to do that. What is she hoping to achieve with this bullshit advice? That people ignore it?

thatbags Tue 02-Feb-16 19:40:15

The implication is that all wine or any wine at all is bad for you. It isn't.

morethan2 Tue 02-Feb-16 19:43:31

Oh dear all the thing that are bad for you sad
sugar
salt
red meat
cured meats
Processed foods
Butter
Alcohol
Probably loads more. I think a little of what you fancy won't harm us. I don't drink a lot, hardly at all really. I really enjoy an occasional drink and I Intend to indulge occasionally no matter what the C.M.O tells me.

Jalima Tue 02-Feb-16 19:46:53

Janea Cheers!
but not with wine, everyone seemed to desist from drinking in January but I decided to wait until February - New Year's Day is never the same without a glass or two.

Jinglbellsfrocks current health advice is exactly the right phrase because it keeps changing from year to year - or even day to day!

Has she given that heart consultant who gives his patients a glass or two of red each evening his marching orders yet?

Ana Tue 02-Feb-16 19:50:17

Jalima, she'll probably allow that as long as he instructs his patients to think about their increased cancer risk before, during and after imbibing...

Jalima Tue 02-Feb-16 20:00:35

Ana
That will do their heart problems a lot of good
'red wine is good for your heart but don't get too complacent because you may get something else instead' grin

Has no-one told her that Stress is really bad for you?

NanaandGrampy Tue 02-Feb-16 20:10:36

I remember when red wine was practically prescribed as being good for you along with dark chocolate. I remember when butter was bad but margarine was good, I remember when rapeseed oil was better than olive oil.

I also remember that all those things have been in and out of fashion and style. Now it's not about fat now it's sugar !

I definitely have come to the conclusion that I am the best person to decide what's best for me and I'm going the route of my Gran - everything in moderation.

I don't need the Nanny State pressuring me, I'm a grown up and I shall stand (or fall) by my own choices which I shall try and be reasonable about. I shall take all this advice under advisement .

Jalima Tue 02-Feb-16 20:14:43

I remember when rapeseed oil was better than olive oil.
Oh, isn't it any more? I haven't seen that

I use organic rapeseed oil for cooking, olive oil for drizzling

Never mind, your last paragraph is very sensible NanaandGrampy

merlotgran Tue 02-Feb-16 20:31:15

I thought the thread title was suggesting that it's good for us to nag.

I definitely feel better after I've nagged DH to get of his a**e and pour me a wine

Alea Tue 02-Feb-16 20:40:56

We are not children
We are women (and some men, oops) with a wealth of professional experience - legal, educational, medical, financial , political, as well as "university of life" commonsensical. Many of us have been, maybe still are, in influential positions,both in this country and abroad , perhaps in medicine, law, social work, finance, business, local or national government etc etc.
I think we are "old enough and ugly enough"( as my late FIL used to say)
to make up our own minds. We have reached the years of discretion and the age of consent. So, we are not being "childish" or "irresponsible" and we don't need to be nagged by the nanny state or indeed anybody else.

janeainsworth Tue 02-Feb-16 20:49:36

merlotgrin

jingl it wasn't meant to be funny.
It was a serious comment, disguised with humour, on the irresponsibility of the Chief Medical Officer.
Because I do think it is irresponsible for someone in her position to try to influence people's behaviour by making scaremongering pronouncements that have very little scientific basis.
She hasn't told people not to drink wine. She's told them to think about their cancer risk every time they drink.
That might reduce their enjoyment of their wine, but how will it actually reduce their risk?

thatbags Tue 02-Feb-16 21:45:46

HQ should get her on Gransnet so we can question her. I don't believe she's as silly as that silly instruction suggests. Why not just tell us to think about our mortality like a good old bible basher? It'd do about the same amount of good.

Do you suppose she's paid piece work and hasn't made any health pronouncements lately so just had to say something?

Yes, I am being silly. What the hell else is one supposed to do in the face of such silliness?

downtoearth Tue 02-Feb-16 21:51:28

Life is terminal ..in the end ..I will just enjoy the bit in the middle,wine