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fighting depression without drugs?

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eddiecat78 Sat 10-Dec-16 11:13:14

I`ve had a couple of bouts of depression in the past and always worry about it coming back. Things are very difficult for me at the moment - in particular trying to settle 93 year old father into a carehome with very little support from anyone else (except husband - bless him). I can feel my mood dropping - getting more tearful and less able to concentrate on anything else.
Before this I was weaning myself off amitriptyline which I have been on for years and I really don`t want to increase the dose again or try another anti-depressant.
So please - can anyone give me some practical tips on how to buck myself up and keep going. I can`t allow myself to become really poorly as there is no-one else to support my father. And my daughter is getting married in April so I need to be well for that (at the moment I can`t work up any enthusiasm for the wedding)

Neversaydie Mon 12-Dec-16 17:48:04

I am amazed a Dr would tell anyone to stop taking amitryptiline immediately. I took it for a year to relieve agonising stress- induced headaches and had to 'wean' myself off it slowly. GP told me it is rarely prescribed for depression these days ,incidentally.

Lazigirl Mon 12-Dec-16 21:47:59

It can cause side effects if stopped suddenly and think usual advice is to withdraw slowly.

greatmum Thu 15-Dec-16 09:16:35

Mumsy , you are so right !!
I have suffered depression on and off over most of my life,. And in reading your post I realised that a lot of these episodes,are after an extremely busy period !
Normally I like being busy ..organised , yet happy go lucky, but it is those times when your not sure and dither...no help from nearest and dearest, apart from saying negative put downs!
Everything spirals into deep despair and a real need for loving affection also perhaps gratitude ? Hugs are really needed !!!

RufusG Fri 10-Feb-17 08:35:22

There may be a physical or "chemical" reason for depression - and other illnesses

This often includes lack of Omega-3, Vitamin D, Vitamin B12 and exercise

I would like to suggest a course of action that you can take together with your partner - in the kitchen and outside in the open air

Omega-3
Eat an average of 2 grams of Omega-3 every day. For the first 3 months this can be up to 5 grams a day. Omega-3 comes from oily fish like salmon or mackerel, chia and flax seeds and a little from walnuts.

3 times a week I take 2 pieces of fresh salmon from the supermarket and squeeze a little lemon juice on top, plus a little salt and pepper. I microwave these for 1 minute for each piece. You will be amazed how soft and "buttery" this tastes, with broccoli, tomatoes and beetroot.

You could take a natural fish oil supplement. Try and avoid the tiny amounts from supplements made in a chemical factory, as you may need to take 20 capsules to total 2 grams and it is not as effective as natural fish oil. You have to read the label and calculate how much omega-3 you are taking. Go to a health food store and ask their advice about "natural fish oil" and how to take 2 grams a day. I like the "SanOmega" natural fish oil from Amazon

Here are some articles that may be of interest:
draxe.com/omega-3-foods/
www.greenvits.eu/blogs/news/88500611-what-to-do-about-depression
www.expertomega3.com/omega-3-studies
www.fatsoflife.com/

Vitamin D
There are many studies that show how depression is associated with low vitamin D. More importantly, there are studies that show how boosting vitamin D helps to treat depression.

You could ask you doctor to test your vitamin D and advise or prescribe supplements, or you could go to your local health food store and buy high strength vitamin D supplements.

Between October and March in the UK we cannot get ANY vitamin D from the sun, so we have to get it from food or supplements. Search online for "foods highest in vitamin D", but remember that milk in the UK is NOT fortified.

The European Food Safety Agency says that any adult can take 100 micrograms (4,000 IU) of vitamin D3 each day without advice from a doctor. Vitamin D lasts in your body for 30 days, so you could take a large amount once a week. Ask your doctor for capsules with 500 micrograms (20,000 IU) to take 1 a week as an equivalent to about 70 micrograms (3,000IU) a day. You can adjust the adjust the number you take - for example you could buy capsules of 5,000IU and take 4 a week. Ask your doctor about a "loading dose" to start things off.

There is a "Call-To-Action" from some eminent scientists that say vitamin D blood level is more important than how much you take. Download this document and show it to your doctor.

Learn more here:
www.vitamindwiki.com/Depression
vitaminduk.com/2015/01/24/depressed-and-sad/
grassrootshealth.net/
www.grassrootshealth.net/media/download/scientists_call_to_daction_020113.pdf
www.vitamindcouncil.org/healthconditions
articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/01/22/depression-causes.aspx

Vitamin B12
Increasing vitamin B12 can help overcome depression. This can come from foods like liver, sardines, tuna and cheese, or you can take a supplement.

Liver is a great source of Vitamin B12 and many other health-giving nutrients. As long as you are not vegetarians, try grilling a small piece of liver. I like it soft and rare, so I squeeze lemon on top with a little salt and pepper and grill it for 1 minute each side - delicious. Try this once a week ?

Learn more here:
draxe.com/top-10-vitamin-b12-foods/
articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/12/17/vitamin-b12-depression.aspx

Exercise
There is no doubt that modest exercise can help depression. That does not mean that you have to go to the gym. Lead your partner by the hand and take them for a brisk walk for 30-60 minutes and you will both come back refreshed

So here are some simple changes to diet and lifestyle that can make a tremendous difference to you and your partner

Let us all know what works for you
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Falconbird Fri 10-Feb-17 09:25:57

I managed to stop taking Diazapam which I was on for a long time after my husband passed away. It wasn't easy but for me easier than giving up smoking which I'm still struggling with. When I get depressed, or for me it's more like extreme anxiety I go on line and buy myself something, nothing major, just a top or something, phone a friend, go to the supermarket and have a coffee, usually meet someone I know or see what's happening on Gransnet or Fb. I've dealt with the elderly person in a Care Home situation, it was my mum and it can be depressing visiting these places, but your dad will be safe there and will settle in. Mum ended up quite liking it and the feeling of being safe. flowers for you eddiecat. You are doing well.

bubbly1960 Fri 10-Feb-17 10:27:55

I have just found this thread, and just reading it has given me some comfort and help. I have depression, anxiety, panic attacks, fybromyalgia, IBS. and Menieres disease, and I have to live with my abusive and depressed son. I am floundering, and have pains in my head, along with frequent headaches and migraine.I have found the comments have given me food for thought. I have had diagnosed depression since I was 13, and have tried the different treatments for depression and anxiety that have evolved over the decades. I have been through the different medications that have also evolved over the years too. I rattle!