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Woeful mental health care ...

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MissAdventure Thu 31-Aug-17 10:04:40

It really is an area that needs more investment. I'm sure the police have enough on their own plates
I watched an episode of '999' a while back, and it was about mental health problems
People who were obviously having the most horrendous times were discharged from hospital a few hours after being taken in.. such a terrible pity.

Jane10 Thu 31-Aug-17 09:59:59

We were told to call the police if necessary.

Luckygirl Thu 31-Aug-17 09:09:05

People are working their socks off; but until there are more of them, or some coherent plan for mental health care, they will be pissing in the sea.

A close relative has mental health problems and frequently has meltdowns. During the last one she was bashing her head on the walls and car windscreen, threatening suicide etc. so the "Crisis Team" was called. They declared that they could not help as she was not registered with them. Duh!?

Imperfect27 Thu 31-Aug-17 09:08:44

l completely agree with Bluebelle too. Many mental health workers do a sterling job, but the resources are not there.. It seems some understanding is beginning to grow in society,but money is still very lacking. I feel my son has been put to so much unnecessary pain which at times has simply been caused by lack of information sharing between professionals.

Jane10 Thu 31-Aug-17 08:42:30

I entirely agree with BlueBelle. Most staff in mental health services work their socks off while hide bound by endless paperwork and extreme lack of funding. It's a very difficult area to try to work in. Getting the right help can vary enormously from episode to episode and can depend so much on individual staff members care, commitment and experience. Many are now quite burnt out from years of bearing the brunt of underfunding leading them to be blamed by the families that they know they are letting down. sadand angry

Anya Thu 31-Aug-17 08:19:59

You can't treat people with mental health problems the same as you can those wth a physical illness. You cannot see or measure how a mental health problem is progressing, or otherwise. There are no scans, X-rays, blood tests, etc for monitoring such conditions.

Appointments with mental health professionals don't often reveal the extent of the problem as it's an inexact science and depends so much on the experience or ability of the professional and how much the patient is able or willing to cooperate.

It relies on the patient to take their medication, which may or may not work anyway and on other people to support that person. Many have no support in place.

It's a shambles, but I'm not sure what can be done to improve it.

Oriel Thu 31-Aug-17 08:16:54

You have my utmost sympathy. Trying to get help for someone with a serious mental health condition is almost impossible. The amount of bungling inefficiency in this sector has to be seen first hand to be believed and people are dying because of the failure to provide adequate care.

The unbearable stress on families trying to get help for their loved ones is apalling. No-one has to fight to receive care for a physical health problem, why should it be any different for a mental illness?

The word mental asylum has negative connotations yet their purpose was to offer refuge to those who needed it. When they were closed down nothing was put in place to support and care for those who needed help. I can't imagine why it was felt that 'care in the community' could ever work. It's an astonishing underestimate of the sort of care a severe mental health condition requires. It's like sending a terminally ill cancer sufferer home with a few tablets and maybe a visit by the district nurse once every few weeks.

I think that it would be a major step forward to build new mental health asylums giving safety and care to those who need it. Massive funding needs to be put into a country-wide programme.

BlueBelle Thu 31-Aug-17 08:13:52

Whilst I totally understand your pain and frustration I want to say a word of support for the mental health workers of this country The service has been woefully neglected over the years and governments have never seen it as a priority it is run down, it is dreadfully lacking in money and nothing is ploughed into it, that's why you can can get help for physical illness easier than mental health If you add to this the dreadful amount of form filling and report writing to prevent you (the mental health nurse) being in court accused of a death
There are no beds available for people needing inpatient nursing they have all been closed down in the quest to keep people ' in the community' and to save money' A nurse can spend all day ringing around the country to find a bed maybe hundreds of miles away a precious day that could have been spent with the patient The red tape increases each year and the staff numbers and the beds decrease rapidly
If you add to this equation the fact that many mental health problems can be tied up with drink or drugs ( which need but doesn't often get) different input

The front line workers are on their knees but get nothing but the blame for the woeful lack of funds They are blamed by the relatives and by the managers and judged by the country it's a thankless job and often takes years and years to manage a patient ...lthere are no quick fixes in mental health you can't put a plaster on it like in the general hospital
I do hope your son gets the help he needs and I can honestly feel for you but I know how wrung out and ill many of the workers are getting

Anya Thu 31-Aug-17 08:10:28

There is no adequate mental health care in this country. Never has been.

So sorry for those whose loved ones need help and support and don't get it.

Imperfect27 Thu 31-Aug-17 07:53:53

Post should probably be titled woeful lack of mental health care. I have a vulnerable adult son who has recently moved. In our world of instant communications it seems drs notes / medical histories take weeks and weeks to travel and meantime he has been referred incorrectly for treatment that he won't qualify for and kept waiting for 8 weeks so far for drs to get him counselling support. I have had to travel from Kent to London to support him today as part of his difficulty means he cannot express his needs well, but he has definitely not been listened to on several occasions. It took over ten years to get a diagnosis for him and he has an understandably deep mistrust of the health service now. Just makes the heart ache. Luckily he does have support. Many don't. Recently a distant family member was troubled and clearly having a psychotic breakdown. She was visiting her father and local A&E refused to help because she was registered under a different burrough and just visiting. She subsequently tried to commit suicide. How do we address these avoidable crises? If l was knocked down by a car l would be taken in at the nearest hospital for treatment .. mental health provision is meant to be improving, but still has such a long way to go. Sorry, just needed a vent! DS will be fine, but l think it is only because we do some jumping up and down for him ...