Diabetes Banished

I didnt live on cupasoup, but had them sometimes instead of more fattening things like pastry,which i love too, thanks for the link, i will have a look,
My eldest son has diabetes, but if it can be hereditary it comes from hois fathers side, non of my family have or had it
Although it could have been his diet, as he moved to Spain 8 years ago, and the living was good [too much wine and too many BBQs
Why do you think cooking from scratch led to my sweet tooth by the way? that puzzles me?
My 2 younest sons are pr diabetes too, we all have Haemochromatosis,[too much iron] that can also contribute to diabetes i believe

valeriej43 www.chemistdirect.co.uk/brands/optifast/bnd-29644
£15.99 for 9 sachets.
These were used for the Newcastle Diet and the MIDDAS intermittent diet that I am now. Contains all your nourishment needs too.
A cu of packet soup isn't likely to nourish you, is it.
Not that I can talk, you name it I have tried it attempting to lose weight.
Try power walking, though your dog might end up looking for alternative accommodation.
Plenty of exercises you can do indoors or outdoors.
Less of the excuses.
Cooking from scratch leads me towards your sweet tooth.
You know the solution!

DH had type 2 diabetes, after 2 years he ceased to need any medication for it and hasn't needed it for several years now. His diet hasn't changed, it was pretty good anyway, nor has he lost any weight.

No idea why this should be.

* Holding* [love your username by theway] thank you for your reply, no i dont really have much weight to lose, but being only just under 5ft,i dont want to put on any more,rather thn lose it
It was a nurse i saw, after a blood test, i am only 2 points above normal she said, but no advice
I do most of my meals from scratch,but i do like chips
I dont drink, apart maybe an odd baileys in company,and stopped smoking 5 years ago
I will have a look at those shakes, but i bet they are expensive,i did lose a bit of weight once using cupasoup,,not purposely to lose weight ,but i noticed i had,
I sometimes had them at lunchtime,i am not a big eater anyway,but as i said i do have a sweet tooth recently
I dont exercise as such, but take my dog for a walk,usually twice a day, sometimes only once in bad weather,shes not young so i dont go too far with her,
I must admit i am less active since havng the internet though i do need to move more.but still quite active for my age i think [75],i do a lot of gardening in summer, but not much to do now,and i have no mobilty problems
I will look at the links you sent me,
Thanks again x

Hi valeriej43, I am surprised that your Doctor didn't offer you any dietary advice, but you can contact your Diabetes Centre of your local Health Authority for further information, as well as reading various forums and speciality sites on the internet.
Its not just the sweet things that are the problem, it is most processed meals which have added sugars in their various (dis)guises.
To get your HbA1c levels down you would be better cooking your own meals from scratch.
Being 9st you cant have copious amounts of weight to lose, so if you ate healthily you should get your blood readings back to your normal range.
The shakes that I bought were branded Optifast.
I bought them from chemistdirect before the hospital supplied me with them free of charge.
If you are going to go down the meal replacement route then try replacing one meal a day, then progress to replacing two meals a day and if you still want to persist try doing 2 consecutive days a week.
Are you exercising? This boosts your results as well as making you feel good and hopefully increases your life expectancy.
www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/testing-diabetes-hba1c-levels-mean/
Beware of your alcohol consumption
www.diabetes.org.uk/guide-to-diabetes/enjoy-food/what-to-drink-with-diabetes/alcohol-and-diabetes?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6fqmscPq3gIVGKaaCh0FdgMTEAAYASAAEgJRLfD_BwE
Its not an easy journey, in fact I am having a bad week, uncontrollable mindless eating and no exercise, but it is only another blip to overcome.
The outcome is well worth struggling for and I wish you well in your quest.

Thank you for this thread,i have recently been told by my Dr,that i am prediabetic, but no advice on what to do about
From what i read on here it seems sweet things are the main culprit,and i have a really sweet tooth,i never had until about 3 ears ago, no idea why,i had always preferred savoury food until then,
I will definitely be cutting down on the sugar now
Can i ask what kind of shakes you had to have?
I have also put a bit of weight on too recntly.although i am still only just under 9st, it has gone to my tummy areaquite a bit, although overall in general

Very well done. My DH was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes in March and has reversed it through eating low carb, smaller meals and lots of water. When you return to ‘normal’ eating low carb is the way to go to keep you blood sugar in the normal range. We have found Michael Mosley’s Books and websites extremely useful. We both eat in this way now and have both lost over 30 pounds. Like KatyK my DH was slim but developing a tummy through too many cakes, pastry and large meals. He was 36 waist and is now 32.

My DH has type 2. He has always been, and still is, very slim. However he had a very sweet tooth, which he has now managed to curb.

I'm sure my friend would have been keen to attend but we're too far awayhotmt
She is now attending a clinic and is receiving more advice and help.

It is an NHS study though it is nothing to do with the diet conducted by Newcastle University. Theirs was done on only11 people, 7 of whom caused their Diabetes to go into remission.
The MIDDAS Diet study group is much larger and much more resources have been pumped into it, like access to a Psychologist, Dietician, Exercise expert and specialist nursing staff.
Let’s hope that they get some volunteers from Gransnet and their friends.
On my Mumsnet thread I deleted the reference to the Newcastle Diet as I thought it may be misleading.
Thanks to everyone who contributed their comments.

And their complete lack of understanding of the clinical trials world

Touting is a terrible word to use - as Jal says it’s a completely legit clinical trial that has been through all the proper regulatory channels. I’m shocked at MN attitude and use of language.

I thought it was an NHS approved trial and it has been featured on the main news, so I can't see what the problem is.

We're really sorry, we know it wasn't your intention, but regardless, Mumsnetters do see touting for medical trials as a form of spam. If we did allow this sort of thing, we'd be inundated with requests - we hope you understand.

Best wishes,
Anya,

How can you possibly consider that to be spam.
I am trying to get across that there are still vacancies on this life changing study.
Can I submit another thread just advising your mumsnetters about the study and the vacancies.
If it comes to the attention of someone with Diabetes who can avail themselves of this study I am sure that they wouldn’t consider the subject as Spam.
Others may have parents/relatives/friends suffering from the disease.
Gransnet accepted my thread which was submitted in good faith, so I find your decision to be surprising in the least.

Thanks for getting in touch. We're not sure if you're aware of our guidelines (http://www.mumsnet.com/info/netiquette), but we wanted to let you know that we have actually had to delete this thread, because that sort of thing is not allowed on the boards - Mumsnetters see it as spam.

We hope you understand where we're coming from.

Best wishes,

I attempted to put the same thread on Mumsnet.
They deleted it, classing it as spam.
When I queried this they said that they couldn’t accept touting for medical trials.
Such a pity as the only people who will be affected are those with the disease who could have benefited from participating if they had known about it.
I have put copies of our correspondence below.

Low carb is the best way to reverse Diabetes T2, as can be seen on the Diabetes.uk website. It's not a "cure" as such, but blood glucose levels will return to normal when a low carb diet is followed. I was almost pre-diabetic (just below the threshold) and started low carb eating over two years ago. On low carb, plenty of "good" fats should also be eaten, as they become the body's fuel source instead of sugar, and the benefits of this way of eating are well-documented.

a friend has just been diagnosed as T2 diabetic and was a fairly healthy weight and ate healthily, didn't drink much apart from an occasional glass of wine. She has had quite a dramatic weight loss as the medication made her feel sick and is now wondering what is the best diet to follow to control or reverse her diabetes yet also put on some weight.

My husband was diagnosed as type 2 about 9 months ago.
He reversed his diabetes in 3 months with diet and exercise.
No shakes or soups just low carb and zero sugar.
He did however admit to buying up to 17 boxes of Lindor chocolates ( the red balls) and sometimes eating a whole box a night! They were hidden all over his study?.
He has now lost his sweet tooth, looks and feels great.

True Flora most of my health problems are beyond my control: high cholesterol when I've always been on a low fat diet, pre-diabetes when I hardly eat sugar, high bp when I hardly use salt or salty food etc. Normal weight for height, walk everyday, never smoked...

True*Flora*, but most T2 is the product of a life style. Change that and you can, with willpower, reverse the diabetes

Good for you but do not believe all type 2 diabetics can be " cured " . If you pancreas his shutting down for other reasons nothing can be done but controle it with medication . Many people are thin and lead a healthy lifestyle but develope this disease.

seacliff get the Michael Mosley book 'Reverse your Diabetes in 8 weeks' You can do it yourself. I did as my GP was no help.

Well done Holding. I really could benefit from that, but am too far from Manchester sadly (Suffolk).