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Diabetes Banished

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holdingontometeeth Thu 08-Nov-18 12:04:38

Having been a serial dieter over the last 5 decades, like many others losing, putting it back on with a bit extra each time and then repeating the cycle many times, I was warned by my GP some years ago that I was pre diabetic and that I should change my eating habits, which were atrocious.
Not realising the seriousness of Diabetes, I was so smug that I didn't even Google the subject.
I carried on with my diet of eating anything and everything.
Realisation finally hit me when I was informed that I had become a fully fledged member of the diagnosed Type 2 Diabetes fraternity.
I was suitably worried that I then Googled the subject. I was devastated when I realised the seriousness of the disease.
I tried really hard and lost weight but any setback in life's experiences saw me reach out for food, any food.
So my weight gain/loss cycle continued.
My HbA1c levels were up and down too.
I subscribed to various Diabetes research sites and it was through one of these that I found out about the MIDDAS study being conducted at Wythenshawe Hospital, Manchester.
I applied to be considered as a participant on the study and was accepted.
It is a follow up of the Newcastle Diet but on a much bigger scale and uses far more resources like access to Nursing staff, Dietician, an Exercise expert, and a Psychologist, via a phone app or telephone/video calls.
I personally attended at the hospital and was fortunate to meet these inspiring people face to face.
My sessions with the Psychologist were eye opening and inspiring. I felt that I had been given the missing piece to the jigsaw to help in the battle with my appetite.
My blips were quickly addressed by the Dietician in a warm encouraging way who answered in depth to any questions that I posted on the App.
You have to attend the hospital for initial weight and blood checks and to complete various paperwork to ensure that you are suitable for the study.
You would be required to attend the hospital for checks 5 times over 12 months.
Open to all between the ages of 18-75 years old.
Having been diagnosed with Diabetes less than 8 years ago.
Not pregnant nor intending to get pregnant during the course of the study.
Accepted participants are given one of two diets, 8 weeks of Optifast meal replacement shakes ( 3 shakes a day plus 640g of vegetables daily ) followed by the Mediterranean Diet, or a low calorie diet something akin to the 5.2 Diet, with Optifast Shakes to be used on the 2days, preferably continuously.
The latter diet is over 27 weeks.
All these shakes are provided free of charge.
You are given the equipment needed to check your Blood Sugar levels daily, again free of charge, and you enter this on a daily basis on your app.
I could go on and on put I have put in a link if you want further information.
I was on the 8 weeks of shakes plus vegetables. It sounds easy 8 weeks, but once started it became quite daunting and I did lapse, but nothing like that I would have done before starting this study.
Anyway, before you all start to nod off, the point of this Thread is that I am now Diabetes free. Not even Pre-Diabetic.
Should I return to my previous eating patterns then obviously the Diabetes would eventually return.
So the Diet works. After 12 weeks I had lost over 2 stones and my body shape had obviously changed for the better, no longer was I being preceded by my stomach as I walked.
I am still being monitored over the 12 month period and I haven't been flip free, but I am getting there, thanks to the warm, compassionate staff and obvious knowledge bestowed upon me by this committed team of experts in their own fields.
After reading the linked page if you are interested then their phone numbers are :- 0161 291 2405/2888

ukctg.nihr.ac.uk/trials/trial-details/trial-details?trialNumber=ISRCTN15394285

This study hasn't been publicised hence there are still vacancies available for those wishing to participate.
Best wishes to anyone who decides to follow this route.
If I haven't posted this in the correct place then can someone please let me know.
Thank you.

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 12:07:13

The title should say Type 2 diabetes banished - but pleased its going well for you

holdingontometeeth Thu 08-Nov-18 12:30:46

Thanks maryeliza54, I checked the body of the thread 3 times but forgot to check the title.
Is there any way that I can amend it?

BBbevan Thu 08-Nov-18 12:44:01

Been there, done that, 2 years ago. It wasn't easy ,so well done holding. Just have to keep on with the good work now

EllanVannin Thu 08-Nov-18 12:54:30

My latest blood test showed that I remain to be intolerant to glucose so therefore produced an impaired situation. I'm not diabetic but this situation has been static for a few years now without change.

Izabella Thu 08-Nov-18 14:03:51

Well done. Managed that myself some time ago. Keep up the good work.

maryeliza54 Thu 08-Nov-18 14:08:27

holding contact GNHQ - they will amend it I’m sure

seacliff Thu 08-Nov-18 14:22:55

Well done Holding. I really could benefit from that, but am too far from Manchester sadly (Suffolk).

BBbevan Thu 08-Nov-18 15:55:23

seacliff get the Michael Mosley book 'Reverse your Diabetes in 8 weeks' You can do it yourself. I did as my GP was no help.

Floradora9 Thu 08-Nov-18 15:59:24

Good for you but do not believe all type 2 diabetics can be " cured " . If you pancreas his shutting down for other reasons nothing can be done but controle it with medication . Many people are thin and lead a healthy lifestyle but develope this disease.

BBbevan Thu 08-Nov-18 17:05:55

True*Flora*, but most T2 is the product of a life style. Change that and you can, with willpower, reverse the diabetes

BlueSky Thu 08-Nov-18 19:21:14

True Flora most of my health problems are beyond my control: high cholesterol when I've always been on a low fat diet, pre-diabetes when I hardly eat sugar, high bp when I hardly use salt or salty food etc. Normal weight for height, walk everyday, never smoked...confused

Missfoodlove Thu 08-Nov-18 19:52:17

My husband was diagnosed as type 2 about 9 months ago.
He reversed his diabetes in 3 months with diet and exercise.
No shakes or soups just low carb and zero sugar.
He did however admit to buying up to 17 boxes of Lindor chocolates ( the red balls) and sometimes eating a whole box a night! They were hidden all over his study?.
He has now lost his sweet tooth, looks and feels great.

Jalima1108 Thu 08-Nov-18 20:21:53

hmm a friend has just been diagnosed as T2 diabetic and was a fairly healthy weight and ate healthily, didn't drink much apart from an occasional glass of wine. She has had quite a dramatic weight loss as the medication made her feel sick and is now wondering what is the best diet to follow to control or reverse her diabetes yet also put on some weight.

NanTheWiser Fri 09-Nov-18 18:08:55

Low carb is the best way to reverse Diabetes T2, as can be seen on the Diabetes.uk website. It's not a "cure" as such, but blood glucose levels will return to normal when a low carb diet is followed. I was almost pre-diabetic (just below the threshold) and started low carb eating over two years ago. On low carb, plenty of "good" fats should also be eaten, as they become the body's fuel source instead of sugar, and the benefits of this way of eating are well-documented.

holdingontometeeth Fri 09-Nov-18 18:15:34

I attempted to put the same thread on Mumsnet.
They deleted it, classing it as spam.
When I queried this they said that they couldn’t accept touting for medical trials.
Such a pity as the only people who will be affected are those with the disease who could have benefited from participating if they had known about it.
I have put copies of our correspondence below.

holdingontometeeth Fri 09-Nov-18 18:17:23

Thanks for getting in touch. We're not sure if you're aware of our guidelines (http://www.mumsnet.com/info/netiquette), but we wanted to let you know that we have actually had to delete this thread, because that sort of thing is not allowed on the boards - Mumsnetters see it as spam.

We hope you understand where we're coming from.

Best wishes,

holdingontometeeth Fri 09-Nov-18 18:19:14

How can you possibly consider that to be spam.
I am trying to get across that there are still vacancies on this life changing study.
Can I submit another thread just advising your mumsnetters about the study and the vacancies.
If it comes to the attention of someone with Diabetes who can avail themselves of this study I am sure that they wouldn’t consider the subject as Spam.
Others may have parents/relatives/friends suffering from the disease.
Gransnet accepted my thread which was submitted in good faith, so I find your decision to be surprising in the least.

holdingontometeeth Fri 09-Nov-18 18:22:11

We're really sorry, we know it wasn't your intention, but regardless, Mumsnetters do see touting for medical trials as a form of spam. If we did allow this sort of thing, we'd be inundated with requests - we hope you understand.

Best wishes,
Anya,

Jalima1108 Fri 09-Nov-18 20:24:03

I thought it was an NHS approved trial and it has been featured on the main news, so I can't see what the problem is.

maryeliza54 Fri 09-Nov-18 22:58:24

Touting is a terrible word to use - as Jal says it’s a completely legit clinical trial that has been through all the proper regulatory channels. I’m shocked at MN attitude and use of language.

maryeliza54 Fri 09-Nov-18 23:01:54

And their complete lack of understanding of the clinical trials world

holdingontometeeth Fri 09-Nov-18 23:57:18

It is an NHS study though it is nothing to do with the diet conducted by Newcastle University. Theirs was done on only11 people, 7 of whom caused their Diabetes to go into remission.
The MIDDAS Diet study group is much larger and much more resources have been pumped into it, like access to a Psychologist, Dietician, Exercise expert and specialist nursing staff.
Let’s hope that they get some volunteers from Gransnet and their friends.
On my Mumsnet thread I deleted the reference to the Newcastle Diet as I thought it may be misleading.
Thanks to everyone who contributed their comments.

Jalima1108 Sat 10-Nov-18 13:17:46

I'm sure my friend would have been keen to attend but we're too far awayhotmt
She is now attending a clinic and is receiving more advice and help.

KatyK Sat 10-Nov-18 17:24:57

My DH has type 2. He has always been, and still is, very slim. However he had a very sweet tooth, which he has now managed to curb.