Menstruation

^According to Martin Wagner and Jörg Oehlmann the Goethe University in Frankfurt am Main, Germany, plastic mineral water bottles contaminate drinking water with estrogenic chemicals. "

And that was 10 years ago. Is anybody doing anything?^

Plus estrogen from the urine of women who are on the Pill. There has been research on how that filters into our drinking water too.

Interesting topic - thanks for all your responses. Seems like it's not that rare then and in some cases has been going on for decades.

And don't think you can change to bottled water...........

"According to Martin Wagner and Jörg Oehlmann the Goethe University in Frankfurt am Main, Germany, plastic mineral water bottles contaminate drinking water with estrogenic chemicals. "

And that was 10 years ago. Is anybody doing anything?

Muffinthemoo

WHAAAAT ? ???
How awful for you.

Further to Daisyboots post, I was about 10st or just over, so no dainty doll.

Gosh! I was 16 and it ended at 50. No sweat(s)
I don't know when my GDs started but my daughters were between 14- 16.

When my friends daughter started her periods just before she was 9 and before her two years older sister the doctor explained to my friend that mostly the onset of menstruation has to do with the weight of the girl more than age. She weighed more than her elder sister and was around 7st.
I was 11 when I started but one of my good friends was 16 but she was small and dainty compared to the rest of us. She was embarrassed because she hadn't started her periods but we all thought she was lucky.

If it is happening, there is nothing we can do. It does seem very young, but it seems to me that children grow up quicker in so many ways. What a shame.

When I was in primary school in the 1950s one girl in our class was much bigger than the rest of us. We were in the playground one day and she was hanging upside down on the metal bars they used to have in school playgrounds. Her knickers were visible and covered with blood and I was horrified. When I went home I told my mother and she gently explained about periods. I would have been about 9 at the time so it was 1952 or 1953.

I don't think it's that uncommon. I was 11,two months off being 12 when I started, my Dd was also 11,but 4 months off being 12. My DGD was 11,and 6 months off being 12. So it seems to get slightly earlier with each generation. My DGD was still at primary school when she started,and far from being the only one,she discovered that there was at least 6 other girls in her year that had started menstruating.

Mean tells you nothing about range especially if it includes second marriages and widows re-married.

Its like when they say that the average life span was less than 30 in the middle ages, but they were including infant deaths in that amd people who made it to adulthood usually made it well beyond their 20s

Ayokunmil i don’t know. But she takes spare pants to school because she ‘feels wet’. Her mum is keeping an eye on things and has spoken to her about it but she is very much still a little girl.

At internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/Library/SLT/society/family/marriage.html#juliet it says
" One common belief about the Renaissance is that children, especially girls, married young. In some noble houses marriages were indeed contracted at a young age, for reasons of property and family alliance, but in fact the average age of marriage was quite old--in the middle twenties.

Marriage statistics indicate that the mean marriage age for the Elizabethan and Jacobean eras was higher than many people realize. Data taken from birthdates of women and marriage certificates reveals mean marriage ages to have been as follows:
1566-1619 27.0 years
1647-1719 29.6 years
1719-1779 26.8 years
1770-1837 25.1 years
The marriage age of men was probably the same or a bit older than that of women. (In 1619, it was about 23 for women, 26 for men.) The age of consent was 12 for a girl, 14 for a boy, but for most children puberty came two or three years later than it does today. "

I think there was a passage in a Shakespeare play about it being wasteful to not have a girl married once her periods had started or am I thinking of something else?

My DGD started at 10 - I'm the co-parent and "mother figure" so it was my job to talk to her, make sure she had everything she needed. Now at 13 she is getting Depo injections to stop them all together , since they were so heavy. She's happy !

In many past times, and other cultures, early starters were hidden by their mothers as starting periods = being marryable / ready for sex.

I had a friend who started at 9 way back when. She told me as a "secret".

I started my periods in 1957 when I was just 11. It was awful as my mum hadn't told me anything about them. Glad my own DD had another couple of years without them as she was 13.

Periods are discussed more and talked about more from an earlier age even in schools.

There have always been early starters, we're just more aware as the conversation is opening up more.

Ellie Anne
Most likely does she sweat a bit in the armpit area
Thats another sign

I think as long as parents are open and honest about periods the child will cope with it . I was the first girl in class to start ( aged 10 ..1960) and my parents had prepared / informed me well - and my older and younger brothers.
Just as well I knew , I became the girl to go to for information for many school friends and particularly remember a classmate who knew nothing until she " cut the top of her leg badly " and came running over for help bless her . I took her to the school nurse who sat and explained things to her , she was soooo shocked and really upset . Not every parent was open at The beginning of the '60 s , and until you covered the subject of rabbits in biology the school told you nothing either ! Thank goodness my parents were sensible !

my eight year old gd is showing signs with mood swings and a bit of a discharge. I hope she doesn’t start her period for a while but I wouldn’t be surprised if she did.

4allweknow
Yes to an extent but W Africans have periods early this i was told was due to our skeletal frame

Nannylovesshopping
My daughter is severly autistic nonverbal this condition PP is the worse thing that could have happened as at 7 ..she begun to have aggresive mood swing staff members were signed off as she had physically harmed them.her strength was like a mans.Everyone was involved.
I have never seen anything like it .
When I went anywhere it was blamed on her autism
I took her out of the country to find support and guess what they did tests upon test as well as skeletal xrays of the hand what was found out was she was almost at puberty her body showed body of an 11 year old child ethnically this is something that could happen I was told but i started in secondary school so around 11 years old
My daughters care was taken over with all the evidence and extensive tests done once again in the Uk to validate and she was given horome injections this is monthly.
Then after the injections ..she was ince my living child again.I thank God that I was able to find out the reason why she became what she had become
She didnt get the injections till she was 8 as it took a long time to get it all sorted. When its getting to.the 27 28th day you can see the drop in behaviour again .
Thought to share

Agree with Philomena.....I read somewhere that body fat has a lot to do with the onset of puberty.....there are reports of extremely athletic women (i.e. gymnists, body builders) that stop menstruating (not enough body fat?).

In any event, diet may also play an important role, particularly the use of food containers that contain Bisphenol=A or BPA.

BPAs are endocrine disruptive and can play havoc on both men and women. These Estrogen like chemicals are primarily found in reusable plastics. BPAs have also been linked to Estrogen receptive breast cancers.

Has a few years to go. Forgive typo!

In middle school, when I was 12, there was only one sanitary bin, outside the toilets in the washbasin area. Even in an all-girls school I found it excruciatingly embarrassing to put the used item in the bin in full view of everyone.