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Vanishing ovaries

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GrandmainOz Wed 06-Mar-19 06:06:05

Anyone, please, have any relevant experience?!
Brief outline: almost 46. Regular periods. Intense, awful pain mid cycle, and half the time during my period also. Started to notice I'm permanently exhausted, I mean bone weary, forgetful, funny digestive habits chopping and changing.
My mother died of ovarian cancer 12 months ago.
I went to GP today who sent me for urgent ultrasound. We hoped perhaps benign ovarian cyst.
Radiographer could not find my ovaries!! Experienced man coming up to retirement, poked and prodded, did an internal ultrasound also. Nothing.
My [email protected]#$%y doctor now on leave till Tuesday.
Anyone else unexpectedly lost their ovaries?
I don't know what to think. I'm a bit shaken up to be honest.
Results will be at surgery by tonight so maybe I should try to get in with another GP tomorrow.

GrandmainOz Wed 06-Mar-19 06:07:41

P.S. I have had five babies, so must have had ovaries at some stage!

gillybob Wed 06-Mar-19 07:05:44

I know they shrink a lot as we get older GrandmainOz and hit menopause but I have never heard of the totally disappearing . Could it be perhaps that they are just tiny and therefore very hard to see?

Anja Wed 06-Mar-19 07:43:45

Found this

“If ovaries are not removed surgically, they are still present. After menopause, our ovaries do shrink. Pre-menopause ovaries are 3-4cm, but after menopause they can be 0.5cm-1.0cm. The older we get, the smaller they become but they never disappear.”

maryeliza54 Wed 06-Mar-19 07:49:06

They can shrink to as little as 0.5cm and can also be obscured by other organs. My understanding is that they can’t actually really disappear as such.

GrandmainOz Wed 06-Mar-19 07:49:20

Thanks, ladies, some food for thought. I do appreciate it. I think the radiographer muttered something about atrophy to the nurse, but I wasn't sure I heard him, and when I piped up, he said he couldn't discuss it, I had to wait for radiologiat report at the doctor's.
Thankyou both flowers

maryeliza54 Wed 06-Mar-19 07:50:04

Anja crossed post

GrandmainOz Wed 06-Mar-19 07:50:47

Maybe I'm actually in menopause but my uterus didn't get the memo!

gillybob Wed 06-Mar-19 07:54:11

Maybe my post of 07.05 is invisible . Hey ho . I mostly talk crap anyway . wink

maryeliza54 Wed 06-Mar-19 08:02:09

gilly not invisible - I just looked up how small they can shrink to as until recently I’d no idea what size a normal ovary was. Sorry if it sounded I’d ignored your post

Anja Wed 06-Mar-19 08:08:39

Just taking your point and googling it gilly and finding you were correct. Then maryeliza spotted we’d crossed posts.

You all right? Sound a bit put out.

GrandmainOz Wed 06-Mar-19 08:11:05

Sorry, typo, should have read thankyou ALL, not both. My apologies - typing too quickly as usual

Jane10 Wed 06-Mar-19 08:12:00

It's great once the menopause is over. Sorry you're having such a bad time right now though.

DanniRae Wed 06-Mar-19 08:57:30

I have nothing to add but just wanted to say how much I appreciate all the stuff that I learn on Gransnet. I now know that ovaries can disappear (or almost disappear to be correct). Amazing!

Jalima1108 Wed 06-Mar-19 10:09:23

I didn't know either DanniRae
Amazing what you learn on GN, thankyou gillybob, Anja and maryeliza!

I hope all goes well, GrandmainOz.
When I was approaching menopause I used to get a pain in that region, as if someone had inserted a needle! so perhaps it was because because an egg has a problem releasing from an ovary which has shrunk.

paddyann Wed 06-Mar-19 10:12:27

When IS it over though? 65 this month still have bleeding most months.I've been investigated ,internal and external scans ,womb biopsies you name it I've had it. I have HRT to avert the symptoms of menopause and it works well My sister still bleeds and she's 70!! My gynaecologist says all women are different and as long as he keeps an eye on whats happening and nothing changes then carry on as I am .I do have an ovarian cyst but it hasn't grown in the past 5 years of checks ,neither have the cysts that I have on my cervix .Any other pensioners with periods ?

sodapop Wed 06-Mar-19 10:31:07

Oh Paddyann I feel for you, such a pain and faff. At least you will remain youthful if we believe menopause tales.
Where is momb to answer these questions ?

ninathenana Wed 06-Mar-19 11:57:09

paddyann you and your sister have my sympathy. I'm 65 (last bleed 10 yrs ago) and the thought of dealing with that at my age shock
I had no idea ovaries shrank with age. Jalima I think you maybe right regarding the pains.

EllanVannin Wed 06-Mar-19 12:03:06

paddyann it'll be the HRT which is causing you to bleed, or did you already know that ? When you take both oestrogen and progesterone together it will cause this " inconvenience " but as long as you're checked out that's fine. It's only nature continuing its process.

GrandmaMoira Wed 06-Mar-19 12:07:16

When I had an internal ultrasound they could only find one ovary and the other was very small. I was told this was quite normal post menopause.

EllanVannin Wed 06-Mar-19 12:08:16

I remember having a scan where my left ovary couldn't be detected. It was after a period of " spotting " when I was put on HRT so had the scan as a precautionary measure. I was taken off HRT and left to face the battle of the menopause.

RosieLeah Wed 06-Mar-19 13:17:07

Grandmainoz...this must be a very worrying time for you. Do get back to us when you have your results.

GrandmainOz Thu 07-Mar-19 05:46:57

Hey all. Do appreciate the posts.
Saw the GP. There is no obvious reason for the missing ovaries, as apparently it's a new ultrasound machine, so it could be atrophy, but given my poor mother's experience, he says they need to be "found"..
Uterine fibroids were quite extensive, which is how my mother's issues started, so I have an urgent referral to a gynaecologist who my GP says is the best in his opinion. Very pleased with that. He also questioned some other symptoms which I hadn't thought to mention as I didn't know they were relevant and has included them in his referral.
So next step is me pestering this gynaecologist for an appointment asap.

maryeliza54 Thu 07-Mar-19 09:19:29

Has anyone mentioned the CA125 blood test to you and an MRI? You could have the blood test done via the GP straightaway and that would be one possible delay out of the way. It’s not definitive but it’s a regular part of the diagnostic process. It’s the waiting during the diagnostic process that can be so hard.

GrandmainOz Thu 07-Mar-19 21:33:04

maryeliza54 One of my first questions to the GP was "should I have any blood tests"?
His reply was that they could just confuse things. I found this an odd response, hence my relief when he made the referral to a specialist.
I have not heard of the CA125 test you mention. I shall look it up and ask the gynaecologist about it when I get my appointment. MRI wasn't mentioned by the GP either, but again I shall raise this at my appointment.
Thanks so much for your postsmile