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GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 11:18:51

Article in the DM today re the link between gut health and pill popping.

Gonegirl Wed 23-Oct-19 15:45:39

You have to remember, ssri's are given for anxiety as well as depression.

Alexa Wed 23-Oct-19 15:34:45

"What is common knowledge is that there may be many different reasons for depression.
Trauma only being one."

It's about 90% the most common one. You only need to read gransnet AIBUs and chat to see how life is traumatic and grievous. No surprise people are desperate for help , especially when religion and church is not much help any more.

Alexa Wed 23-Oct-19 15:30:00

My doctor ' dished out' antidepressants to me because he couldn't do anything else for me.

petra Wed 23-Oct-19 15:16:16

Polyester
Interesting that you should mention inflammation of the gut RE depression. Not long ago I was reading an article on this subject.
I put this to a family member who is suffering. She was always a very healthy eater. She want to see a specialist on this subject, changed her diet drastically and the results can only be described as miraculous ?

But, it's not easy and not for everyone.

anniezzz09 Wed 23-Oct-19 14:48:04

When I saw my GP recently about depression, he listened carefully (lovely man), told me how to sign up for local mental health services and then recommended St John's Wort which he said was as effective as prescribed antidepressants. I found some in H&B and I must admit, its been helpful.

grapefruitpip Wed 23-Oct-19 14:39:43

If I break both my legs, do you advise me to do without crutches? Walk around a bit, you'll soon heal.

So much ignorance and misinformation.

Doctors do not " dish out" anti depressants.

MawB Wed 23-Oct-19 14:36:32

Alexa
Just one reticle

Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) are the most commonly prescribed antidepressants. They can ease symptoms of moderate to severe depression, are relatively safe and typically cause fewer side effects than other types of antidepressants do
How SSRIs work
SSRIs treat depression by increasing levels of serotonin in the brain. Serotonin is one of the chemical messengers (neurotransmitters) that carry signals between brain nerve cells (neurons)
SSRIs block the reabsorption (reuptake) of serotonin into neurons. This makes more serotonin available to improve transmission of messages between neurons. SSRIs are called selective because they mainly affect serotonin, not other neurotransmitters.
SSRIs may also be used to treat conditions other than depression

What is common knowledge is that there may be many different reasons for depression.
Trauma only being one.

grapefruitpip Wed 23-Oct-19 14:24:06

Nice one, the misinformation and arguing begins.

Do you have a link please Alexa?

Alexa Wed 23-Oct-19 14:19:03

Gonegirl it would be more cruel if I patronised you.

MawB it's common knowledge the story about serotonin and its re-uptake and so on is bunk.

People have bad experiences that cause long lasting trauma. In the great majority of cases there is absolutely nothing wrong with their neurotransmitters. Brains are marvellous!

EllanVannin Wed 23-Oct-19 14:09:01

Perhaps I should have had a cushy job with hours to suit instead of nursing thousands of people over the years----huh, the inconvenience of them being ill !

46 years of slog takes its toll on the best of us, besides bringing up children and the problems that crop up over the years.

Blooming cheek !

I totally ignore the media or anyone who dictates how you should live etc. I use my common sense.!

Gonegirl Wed 23-Oct-19 14:08:48

Alexa your post is downright cruel.

MawB Wed 23-Oct-19 14:08:04

Alexa Wed 23-Oct-19 13:51:43
You have no idea how much fluoxetine helped me

Placebo effect

Your medical degree was gained exactly when, Alexa ?

Gonegirl Wed 23-Oct-19 14:08:04

I was feeling ok this morning, until I read this thread. Then I went down again, feeling hurt and tearful. But I got on my bike and went to the local shops. I can only just manage to ride my bike these days. It makes me so tired, and I puff and blow.

I won't read anymore of this thread. If you haven't been there, you have no idea.

I'm not doing this getting old thing very well.

As Callistemon said, none of us know what is around the corner. "

grapefruitpip Wed 23-Oct-19 13:52:33

I'll tell you who I am , a person with empathy ,with feeling for others.

So to tell people who need medication to survive that you ( in perfect health) have read some tosh in the DM is disingenuous.

Alexa Wed 23-Oct-19 13:51:43

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Marydoll Wed 23-Oct-19 13:50:51

Oops, should have proof read!
I wrote i instead of I! blush

phoenix Wed 23-Oct-19 13:49:52

Shant!

Marydoll Wed 23-Oct-19 13:48:30

As someone who will be on antibiotics for the rest of her life, and who needs steroids on a regular basis, as well as a lot of other toxic medication, it does worry me, Gabriella, I am in no doubt about the damage it is doing to my gut.
i think it is pretty obvious that your stomach will suffer.

For that reason, I do take probiotics, which I have found helpful and have a very healthy diet.

However, as another poster has said, I too would be dead, if I didn't take them, so some of us have no choice in the matter. I would ditch all the pills in a second, if I could.

GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 13:45:57

phoenix

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ladymuck Wed 23-Oct-19 13:45:41

Doctors are too quick to prescribe drugs for every little ailment, but then they are encouraged to do so by the drug companies.

GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 13:44:55

grapefruitpip
I let people choose for themselves whether to read or not...or should I contact you beforehand to ask what you think is an appropriate intro to post...eh?
I don't know who you think you are.

phoenix Wed 23-Oct-19 13:44:24

Oh GabriellaG54 hand back the keys to the JCB.

GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 13:40:07

No-one has said that Surrey air is pure so don't write untruths about what has been alleged.
Surrey is a huge county and my area is cleaner pollution-wise than some other far flung parts of the county.
Who said the air here was pure?

grapefruitpip Wed 23-Oct-19 13:40:00

If I had spotted such an article I may have said something along the lines of....Look GN folk, this may be worth a read, some of you might like along to the GP and review your medication.

grapefruitpip Wed 23-Oct-19 13:38:32

I wage war, as you put it rather foolishly. I play straight into your hands.

You claim to have no interest in other people and to be supremely confident that you are perfect.

You don't wish to help, to draw attention to any possible side effects to taking medication.

You wish to provoke, to feel superior and to gloat.

People here have things going on which are unimaginably challenging through no fault of their own.
Thank Goodness for medication and well trained, compassionate medics.