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Harri1 Fri 15-Nov-19 14:13:16

Hi, I’m 67 and recently stopped taking HRT as I went to a naturopath and he said taking HRT disrupted friendly bacteria in the gut similar to taking continuous antibiotics. I used wellness a topical cream and all was well.

However I’ve noticed my knees now aching as I climb downstairs and also when doing my yoga poses. I didn’t really relate it to stopping HRT until,I googled it and it brought me to this site where people had experienced the same thing.

I’m seriously considering going back on them again.. I would appreciate anyone else experience please.

Frannygranny Sat 16-Nov-19 17:54:18

After a hysterectomy and my ovaries removed at the age of 46 I was put on HRT. After 10 years my GP decided to take me off them. My menopause started with a bang after that and after some research I decided to try soy products. I used soya milk on my cereal and took a soy isoflavones tablet every morning. These are available from an excellent online Health Care company based in Guernsey. I’d really recommend trying soy. I’m off them now but don’t have any symptoms left. Good Luck.

Hotmama Sat 16-Nov-19 18:22:43

SusieQ, you should be able to buy your HRT in Spain at the pharmacy. Just take a copy of your prescription with you. It will cost but a small price to pay for the benefits it gives you. I got my patches in Tenerife, no problem and will go out there again if needs be.

Hotmama Sat 16-Nov-19 18:30:48

What they don’t tell you Juniper is that for SOME women menopause symptoms never stop. I struggled for 12 years with horrible symptoms thinking I would just try and see it through. But there were no signs of it ever stopping and I had no quality of life. If it had all been over and done with in say five to ten years as they tell you then fair enough but for some (and I stress, some,) it carries on to the grave. My GP confirmed this as well. My sister is 82 and still gets hot flushes.

Nanna58 Sat 16-Nov-19 18:34:11

Will stay on HRT forever if I have my way! OP, can’t you just take a pro- biotic supplement, I do.

Jillybird Sat 16-Nov-19 19:46:28

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

GrandmaJan Sat 16-Nov-19 19:52:32

Hotmama is correct. In the early days of HRT it was thought that if a woman took it for a certain amount of time it would protect her against the symptoms of the menopause and once she stopped so would the symptoms. We know that’s not the case and it’s very common to stop HRT and suddenly have the symptoms. It happened to me and after a period of trying to cope with the symptoms I went back onto HRT again. My GP has told me she is prepared to prescribe it for as long as I want providing my blood pressure is ok and I don’t have any other contraindications.

Esspee Sat 16-Nov-19 22:06:41

It is natural for a woman to have oestrogen. That is what makes us women.
In the past, the end of our childbearing life was also pretty much the end of our lives.
Today we are told we can expect to live into our 90s. With an average age at menopause being around 50 that gives us about 40 years post menopause on average.
If someone is diabetic and deficient in insulin we automatically replace the insulin.
If a man is deficient in testosterone he is automatically put on HRT (though it is not referred to as that).
For some reason women are indoctrinated into believing that doing without oestrogen is natural when in fact it is the opposite. Having sufficient oestrogen is natural for women, being deficient is not.
As your oestrogen is depleted your bones start to suffer from osteoporosis, your vagina atrophies, you age dramatically compared to someone with enough oestrogen.
Modern medicine allows us now to correct this deficiency so that women can enjoy a more vibrant life and continue to contribute to society.
I will never stop taking my HRT. Twice a year I have a tiny pellet of an extremely low dose (compared to oral medication) estradiol inserted under my skin. The other 363 days of the year I can forget that I am "past it". No pills, no patches, no flushes, aches, no premature aging etc.
I will not suffer from delayed menopause because I will never stop replacing the hormone I lack.
It's been 30 years now, roll on the next 30. ?

madmum38 Sat 16-Nov-19 22:30:02

I’m 54 and not started the menopause yet but am wondering if the GP’s give this easily or do you have to battle for it? Reason I ask is that I have problems with my bones anyway and worried that when I do reach it,must be soon I would think, that my bones will be stiffer than they already are

Mcrc Sun 17-Nov-19 01:25:59

What do you expect from a naturopath? Of course they would say HRT is bad. Vaccines are bad, formula for babies is bad,sugar and meat will kill you. Most of us here have lived long enough to know that trusting yourself as well as medical science might be an ok route to follow. HRT has helpwd mw immensely in many ways. Feel better!

Mcrc Sun 17-Nov-19 01:27:57

@espee, I love what you have to say!

Mcrc Sun 17-Nov-19 02:51:05

Wow, so glad I have it. In the US and no problems of shortages at all. Don't know why there is for you in UK. Anyway, I can't believe how much it has helped. I also have taken antidepressants for many years. Are we all just supposed to say it is not "natural" to have support and just deal with it? I know our previous generations would have also loved to have help.

Mcrc Sun 17-Nov-19 02:57:04

Our choice of insurance here. Does it make a difference? Not sure but no offense, I do not to see it become all one big single payer. Our country is just too big. I know there are pros and cons to it all.

Hotmama Sun 17-Nov-19 09:22:27

Espee, so well put, thank you. Mcrc, yes there is a real problem here in the UK with the manufacture of HRT and there doesn’t seem to be an end in sight yet hence why some of us are travelling to Spain to buy supplies. Other drugs are affected as well. It’s not just that we can’t get it on the NHS, you can’t buy it privately either. Well, I can’t on the south coast and not on the internet either. I don’t know about other parts of the country.

Maggitone Mon 18-Nov-19 12:31:22

I have come of HRT twice in the past, now on again was prepared to argue with my GP but no problem I'm 71 now, have cut down on the dose of patches ,so now on 1/2 a patch twice per week now
Friend had breast cancer treatment last year post 9 months her Specialist told her she could go back on HRT, which she did.
Its quality of life now that's important to me

JacquiG Mon 18-Nov-19 13:11:33

For lovebooks

Human identical progesterone and estriol can be purchased from the USA. My sister used black cohosh, red clover, and had blood tests etc to determine how much of each hormone she needed and had it specially formulated. Cost, (Arms and legs) features strongly!

Got some beta-sitosterol recently for an older male friend who had chaps problems, and he finds it extremely effective. Turns out that that is also used for the menopause, high blood pressure, and cholesterol.

For bones, I take nearly 4 grams of fish oil capsules, two large turmeric capsules, and high dose vitamin D, daily. Plus magnesium and other minerals. DXA scans show no osteoporosis.

Menopause can be devastating for anyone, and those with jobs, careers etc can find it very difficult. It changed my life when I went on it. Back to normal. (Isn't normal nice.)

Not on it now as need for breast cancer surgery pre-empted it, and when I came off it, found I didn't need it. But there are better forms of HRT now, and to be honest, I'd take that risk again.

ChrissyN Tue 19-Jul-22 08:30:46

Go to GP and insist on seeing an endocrinologist to discuss your symptoms and measure hormone levels. Say your concerned about osteoporosis.