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Yehbutnobut Thu 13-Feb-20 08:35:04

“ Health bosses speculate that the virus will continue to spread in the UK until it peaks in the summer, later than the previous assumption that it would peter out in the late spring. A source said: “We are planning that we are into this for the next few months.”.”

Taken from today’s newspapers. I really don’t see how this cannot spread to epidemic proportions in the UK when we are still allowing flights from China and a passenger from one of these has tested positive one for the virus in London.

Nothing we can do but wait helplessly.

Daisymae Thu 27-Feb-20 08:46:41

Numerous!

tickingbird Thu 27-Feb-20 09:01:39

YBNB Yes really??

tickingbird Thu 27-Feb-20 09:04:36

Back on topic - there are many people who have the mild form of the virus so aren’t aware they have CV and thereby pass it on unknowingly. Also as Italians are very touchy feely people the infection rate over there is probably much higher.

GagaJo Thu 27-Feb-20 09:12:47

Girl at my school (Switzerland) has a heavy cold, problems breathing, been to the pediatrician. Not tested. DESPITE having had Italian guests staying here for a week, last week. ??????

GagaJo Thu 27-Feb-20 09:17:33

For cleaning, what products KILL the virus? At home, we have a shared bathroom. Just thinking about how to protect others if one of us had it.

harrigran Thu 27-Feb-20 09:31:50

I fear they are under estimating the incubation period.
Saw a FB message from SIL last night saying he was flying to UK from big international airport, I suggested he kept his distance as best he could, his reply was that it would be difficult as it was a plane with less than forty seats.

Sparklefizz Thu 27-Feb-20 09:38:28

GagaJo I would suggest bleach.

merlotgran Thu 27-Feb-20 09:44:28

DH likes to chat to the postman who reverses down our drive then hands him the post through the window.

I've asked postie to put it in the box on the outside wall instead and we'll pick it up from there. It makes sense to me because the one person who has daily contact with a lot of people over a large area is....the postman!

I can then give my hands a thorough wash after I've opened the mail.

Still no news from our local school about the students who have been taken ill after a ski-ing trip to Italy.

suziewoozie Thu 27-Feb-20 10:03:08

At the moment in the UK everyone who’s tested positive is in hospital, aren’t they? What will happen if the numbers increase? I understand that most people wouldn’t need hospitalisation but what about the vulnerable groups? Who will be admitted? How will that decision be made? It could all kick off very quickly as in Italy and I’d like to know what is planned. R4 Today said the Government refused to send a minister to appear on the programme. That’s beyond appalling.

Calendargirl Thu 27-Feb-20 10:07:31

Two more diagnosed in UK, to do with Italy and Tenerife.
We need to remember that 8 people have recovered already and been discharged.

GagaJo Thu 27-Feb-20 10:18:28

Given that they think many of us will have it and not realise it is THE virus, I think it's going to spread madly.

The only reason I'm worried about myself with it is because at times I have asthma. Not recently, BUT that means I'm in a higher risk group. I never use either inhaler, but I've started using my steroid inhaler again for the first time in years, but in case.

I work overseas but was going home for Easter. Now thinking I shouldn't go. I'm desperate to see DGS but think its risky, flying.

GagaJo Thu 27-Feb-20 10:19:05

They think 80% of us will get it at some point.

Callistemon Thu 27-Feb-20 10:21:13

I know one family who will be returning from the Far East shortly with children at the DGCs' school. Will they self-isolate?

suziewoozie Thu 27-Feb-20 10:28:32

The ones who’ve been discharged were looked after in hospital. I’d like to know what the plans are for if the number of cases reaches 3 or 4 figures. Also how ‘at risk’ were they?

suziewoozie Thu 27-Feb-20 10:31:04

We simply can’t draw any conclusions from the handful of cases we’ve had so far as to how everything would be managed if numbers increase.

Sparklefizz Thu 27-Feb-20 10:33:10

I am in the high risk group. I have asthma and need to use a preventer inhaler every day, and sometimes a reliever inhaler too. I also have 8 other illnesses so am not in good health, plus there is also my age. I have bought some face masks while there are still some available to buy. Italy sold out of masks overnight.

seacliff Thu 27-Feb-20 10:33:59

I don't normally worry too much about this sort of thing, but this does seem very nasty if you get it badly. www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/02/here-is-what-coronavirus-does-to-the-body/

I have to go to the doctors today to collect a prescription. As far as I know, there are no cases very close to us. Never the less I will go to the doctors at what I hope is a quiet time, quickly in and out, and wash my hands thoroughly after. I am glad for once that we have no holiday abroad booked, as I get bugs from a plane flight at the best of times.

The good news is that the new cases in China have fallen now for the 3rd day running.

Sparklefizz Thu 27-Feb-20 10:34:59

PS. Have also stocked up on hand gel plus always do regular handwashing, but have increased doing that too.

tickingbird Thu 27-Feb-20 10:40:46

Over the past few days the death rate has fallen dramatically. That maybe because it’s peaked in China, where most of the deaths occurred. Or they may spike again as it spreads elsewhere.

suziewoozie Thu 27-Feb-20 10:45:58

Has anyone a link to anything that says the death rate has fallen. ( as opposed to the number of deaths) ?

pinkquartz Thu 27-Feb-20 10:54:35

JenniferEccles

you didn't answer when I asked you if you are not in a vulnerable group? Because your kind of callousness is exactly the wrong attitude. Maybe you won't get it but maybe someone you care about will.

And while you stand by what you said, the virus is spreading.
The Govt should be doing more.

giulia Thu 27-Feb-20 10:56:16

suziewoozie Yes, we have a TV news reporter based in Peking who confirms that Death rate definitely consistently falling.

Daisymae Thu 27-Feb-20 11:06:45

Well the Italian death rate is over 2 per cent. I think that it's short sighted for the official advice that schools should not close unless cases are confirmed. I think that it would be wise to take all circumstances into account. It does seem right to close if there are strong indications.

Missfoodlove Thu 27-Feb-20 11:16:11

Myself and OH take a daily supplement called NAC, it’s little known or used in the UK.
It has so many benefits from treating addictions to COPD......really!
Research suggests it can help massively in the treatment of influenza type virus.
There are many articles online extolling it’s virtues, I highly recommend this to anyone with chest/respiratory illness to read the link. www.researchgate.net/publication/26791825_N-Acetyl-L-cysteine_NAC_inhibits_virus_replication_and_expression_of_pro-inflammatory_molecules_in_A549_cells_infected_with_highly_pathogenic_H5N1_influenza_A_virus

pinkquartz Thu 27-Feb-20 11:19:13

I have taken NAC for years.
During that time i have continued to develop COPD and to still have a weak immune system . I catch every virus and I stay ill for a long time.
Therefore I don't believe NAC does give much protection.
I take it for my Liver.