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What are underlying health conditions?

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glammagran Fri 13-Mar-20 09:19:31

Deaths from coranavirus have been reported stating that the patients all had underlying health conditions. I assumed that these patients were already seriously ill from other causes. Now I read that one patient had high cholesterol and arthritis (same as me) and that high blood pressure (DH, under control) comes under this clause. So I’m making the assumption that nearly all people 60+ have an underlying health condition. What do others think?

henetha Sat 14-Mar-20 10:30:53

I'm 82 and take Amlodopine, and other medications which control my health which is quite good as long as I keep taking them. So should I self isolate? If so, when? My son thinks I should start right now. I've got a lunch date next week, so should I cancel? I'm finding it difficult to decide.
Your opinions would be very welcome, - thank you.

Pussycat2012 Sat 14-Mar-20 11:20:56

CherryCezzy and Marydoll thank u both so much for advice re epilepsy. Sorry I missed yours CherryCezzy, obviously mislaid specs yet again! And Marydoll hope some empire biscuits and tray of tablet will add to supplies in cupboard. All be it the empires have smarties on top as ran out of ? cherries.?

Marydoll Sat 14-Mar-20 12:07:26

Pussycat, a woman after my own heart, they are my signature bakes. I'd rather have the smarties anyway!

I'm making tablet for my daughter's wedding in a fortnight.
Stockpiling sugar and that was before the coronavirus panic!

Pussycat2012 Sat 14-Mar-20 12:54:21

Marydoll, u wouldn’t happen to be a true Glaswegian like myself by any chance? My cupboard is full of sugar too not to mention macaroon bars and chocolate digestives! ??

Marydoll Sat 14-Mar-20 13:04:14

Oh no! You have been rooting in my cupboards, how did you know I bought macaroon bars yesterday? ?

I usually make them, but had no cold potato! Well actually, I did think about it and couldn't be bothered with all the faff.
I'm also about to make empire biscuits from my mother's old Lofty Peak recipe book!

Iam64 Sat 14-Mar-20 13:41:08

Thanks Marydoll, the advice to hold off your injection and phone your rheumatologist if you have symptoms, temp etc is standard isn't it.

I'm fortunate in having dogs who need to be walked twice a day so I'm out in the fresh air (rain and wind) which helps blow worries away

Jangran99 Sat 14-Mar-20 13:43:49

Marydoll despite all I am laughing out loud.Our geography lecturer’s nickname in Notre Dame was Lofty Peak!! She was 6ft tall and clad in black/white. I know you will be able to picture that? I still have Mum’s book and several of her Bero recipe books.
Lovely memories ❤️

CherryCezzy Sat 14-Mar-20 14:35:19

Pussycat & Marydoll I can't believe that I've never heard of empire biscuits blush. Sounds like they, traditionally contain ? s too! How come I, of all people grin, lived all this time without knowing that! They also sound scrummy so I will have to make it my mission to find a good recipe.

M0nica Sat 14-Mar-20 16:22:36

henetha, depends on how many at the lunch and whether the illness is in your area. Lunch with a couple of friends who are also being careful, at a quiet venue in an area with few if any cases of corona virus, will probably be safe. But at the end of the day we all need to make our own decisions

Marydoll Sat 14-Mar-20 16:22:57

If you want the recipe, I will send it.
They are a family favourite!

Marydoll Sat 14-Mar-20 17:26:56

Empire biscuit recipe. You need to scroll down to the bottom of the page to get the recipe. I usually substitute 2oz flour with 2oz cornflour.

www.christinascucina.com/empire-biscuits-classic-scottish-iced-cookies-with-raspberry-jam/

They should come with a health warning, but delicious.
Enjoy!

paddyanne Sat 14-Mar-20 17:43:52

My MIL buys macaroon bars for us in Lees factory shop in Airdrie,sometimes she buys the misshapes and theres loads of coconut on it.Its one of the two sweeties I cant resist ,the other is liquorice allsorts .

Pussycat2012 Sat 14-Mar-20 17:57:40

Ooh Paddy Anne, ur MIL is definitely a keeper! Coconut truffles and a cuppa coffee with cream and i’m in heaven.. and Marydoll I must try ur cornflour trick with the empires! Any excuse to make another batch-think i’ll top next lot with chocolate buttons or maybe sprinkles.☺️

CherryCezzy Sat 14-Mar-20 20:35:09

Thanks for the link Marydoll. Yes, the recipe does appear to need to come with a warning. They look absolutely divine though so they will just have to be made! grin

GabriellaG54 Sat 14-Mar-20 21:23:23

Wow! Anrol
Your family certainly drew the short straw health-wise. I'm sorry to hear that and hope you can all support each other, even just face-timing or at least daily contact of some sort.
Take care ?
Gabriella

DiaryWriter Sun 15-Mar-20 11:29:20

I too have wonky health and I have to munch my tablets daily.
Looks like things are going to become awfully quiet here?

Coolgran65 Thu 19-Mar-20 21:55:13

My Scottish dil talks of empire biscuits. Turns out they are what we call German biscuits.

Coolgran65 Thu 19-Mar-20 21:56:20

I take 12 medications daily.
I guess that says it all.
Definitely in the vulnerable categories.

Fiachna50 Thu 19-Mar-20 23:32:21

From what Ive read. Underlying health conditions pertains to people who are eligible for a free flu jab in the Autumn/Winter.

Marydoll Fri 20-Mar-20 08:47:35

Forgive me if this has been posted already, there are so many threads on Coronavirus, I'm finding it hard to keep up. It is pretty comprehensive.
Public Health England have this on their website.

We are advising those who are at increased risk of severe illness from coronavirus (COVID-19) to be particularly stringent in following social distancing measures.
This group includes those who are:

aged 70 or older (regardless of medical conditions)
under 70 with an underlying health condition listed below (ie anyone instructed to get a flu jab as an adult each year on medical grounds):
chronic (long-term) respiratory diseases, such as asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), emphysema or bronchitis
chronic heart disease, such as heart failure
chronic kidney disease
chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis
chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson’s disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy
diabetes
problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed
a weakened immune system as the result of conditions such as HIV and AIDS, or medicines such as steroid tablets or chemotherapy
being seriously overweight (a body mass index (BMI) of 40 or above)
those who are pregnant
Note: there are some clinical conditions which put people at even higher risk of severe illness from COVID-19. If you are in this category, next week the NHS in England will directly contact you with advice the more stringent measures you should take in order to keep yourself and others safe. For now, you should rigorously follow the social distancing advice in full, outlined below.

People falling into this group are those who may be at particular risk due to complex health problems such as:

people who have received an organ transplant and remain on ongoing immunosuppression medication
people with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy or radiotherapy
people with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia who are at any stage of treatment
people with severe chest conditions such as cystic fibrosis or severe asthma (requiring hospital admissions or courses of steroid tablets)
people with severe diseases of body systems, such as severe kidney disease (dialysis)

samanta Sun 22-Mar-20 08:39:58

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Oopsadaisy3 Sun 22-Mar-20 09:40:33

Why has the poster named the care company and provided a link? Unlikely that a carer will keep a distance of 3 metres.
In case it’s not an advertising ploy, I hope your mother stays safe Samanta

Marydoll Sun 22-Mar-20 09:42:22

I wondered that too!
It wasn't necessary to put in the hyperlink.

Shropshirelass Sun 22-Mar-20 09:54:23

Any illness that has weakened the immune system. High blood pressure, diabetes, lung conditions including Asthma and heart conditions. Dr Asseem Malhatra was on Sky news this morning discussing this very issue. Obesity and high sugar levels in the blood caused through diet also add to the risks.

AmeliaOgden Thu 30-Jul-20 11:29:14

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