Grandparents Vaccines: The New World We Live In

I think this is thread should be seen as a warning against privatised medical systems and where pharmaceutical companies can advertise directly to consumers to sell their products as if they were sweeties.

Medicise everything, encourage people to think every tiny ill can be dealt with by popping a pill and emotionally blackmail parents so they think a baby can be killed by a kiss. May be one in several million in exceptional circumstances. It is probably more likely that the parent will be killed in a car crash, so are all parents to be banned from any travel because one in a million will be killed? And what about all the anti-bacterial resistence that is developing.

I had the actual illnesses of measles, mumps, chicken pox and rubella as a child.
Whooping cough during my ‘O’ levels.
Diphtheria, smallpox and polio vaccines as child or young adult.
You can’t pass on tetanus.

Imagine most of us are the same.

I would like to see unbiased research data on the number of cases where children have caught these childhood diseases from grandparents. When my children got chicken pox, they picked up up from their friends, not family. I would have thought it more likely that grandparents would pick up diseases from the children. Most childhood diseases you can be inoculated against (for free) in UK. The only thing that my dd was careful about was kissing my dgs because of the proven risks to newborns of the herpes virus.

Agree with so much on this thread, but then, in UK, where we do not pay for necessary vaccinations, there is no need for Doctors and drug companies to try to push us into extra ones.
However, the original OP did mention smoking, and that has not been followed up.
I would certainly sympathise with any parent of a young baby or child who did not want g.parents (or anyone else) who smoked getting too close to that child,
Surely, if g.parents are still using this horrible drug, this is an idea time for them to kick the habit - better to spend some money on help for that than extra vaccinations they and the child do not need for them to have.
Yes, and full breast feeding for at least the first 3- 6 months will give the baby so much immunity.
My third born was premature and due to circumstances I had to discharge us both from the hospital and come home to my husband and two small toddlers. Unfortunately, I then went down with a very nasty case of D&V. My two young children were not allowed anywhere near me, but (with doctors advice - and lots of hand washing) I continued to look after the prem baby as she was being totally breast fed and thereby getting immunity from me.
That was close on fifty years ago now and she is a strong healthy adult with four of her own children.

maddyone

I had the MMR vaccine two years ago, and so did my husband. We were travelling to Japan and joining a cruise which called for two days at Taiwan. Apparently there was a measles outbreak there, and our Practice Nurse recommended that we had the vaccinations. We both did.

NHS advice is that, if you had the measles or mumps as a child, you are highly unlikely to catch it again.

I had not had rubella, as I found out when I had my last child, so they gave me the vaccination a couple of days after she was born. The nurse and I both agreed that it was 'shutting the stable door after the horse had bolted'.
I remember that I developed a thumping headache afterwards.

Furret

I had the actual illnesses of measles, mumps, chicken pox and rubella as a child.
Whooping cough during my ‘O’ levels.
Diphtheria, smallpox and polio vaccines as child or young adult.
You can’t pass on tetanus.

Imagine most of us are the same.

I think it's sensible to either get a tetanus booster every ten years or, if you do have an accident which causes dirty open wounds, to ask for one then.

TaraLee

Callistemom,

Here is one of “they”

www.healthgrades.com/right-care/aging-well/vaccines-all-new-grandparents-need

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Obviously the EU has enough sense to ban this !

LOL! America has gone bonkers this year, for sure.

Here’s one from the CDC, the official Center for Disease Control in America:

www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pregnancy/family-caregivers.html

In the 40's most mothers encouraged play with those children who had mumps/measles/ chickenpox etc, but it became a step too far when I caught scarlet fever and was in an isolation hospital in 1945.
However, I never did catch chicken pox so remained a carrier and not long ago I had a shingles jab.

Started nursing and had a smallpox and BCG jab. Went abroad in the mid 70's and had a typhoid/yellow fever jab. Now, it's annual flu jabs.

On a slight tangent, but also a startling reflection on American medicine, according to Bill Bryson (The Body):
"Almost three quarters of the forty million antibiotic prescriptions written each year in the United States are for conditions that cannot be cured with antibiotics....Even more appallingly, in the United States 80 percent of antibiotics are fed to farm animals, mostly to fatten them."

Never heard of this...sorry?

It really does feel like everything’s shifting faster than we can keep up. Kind of like in Rehabilitation Therapy Ivrea, where adapting to new routines takes patience but ends up making a big difference in the long run.

FIVE YEAR OLD THREAD.

TaraLee

Ahhhh.....lucky you. smile

Its not a UK thing