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watermeadow Thu 08-Oct-20 17:52:19

Just heard that 12,000 people have waited more than a year to start treatment.
I had a cataract operation a few days ago and had waited almost a year but I’m not complaining, it was a minor op and not urgent. I feel very humbly grateful and so sorry for patients waiting for treatment for serious and scary conditions.
Working under coronavirus conditions must be so hard but every single member of staff was kind and helpful.

Tweedle24 Thu 08-Oct-20 18:00:55

Well said, watermeadow. I do, though, feel sorry for those waiting for urgent lifesaving or pain relieving treatment because of the Covid problems.

Covid has so much to answer for.

cornergran Thu 08-Oct-20 21:31:02

I’m on a waiting list to be put on a waiting list. The best guess is 2 years.

Chewbacca Thu 08-Oct-20 21:32:40

I'm one of the 4.2 million people who are waiting for knee or hip replacement ops. Will I live long enough to get one?

paddyanne Thu 08-Oct-20 23:17:06

The Scottish "nightingale" hospitals have been used for clinics to bring down waiting lists since June I believe .My neighbour had his appointment and his operation the next week .he had his foot amputated and was kept in hospital until they had him up and walking again around 4 weeks.hes done great even see him walking along the street just to get some exercise .
I thought all the emergency hospitals were being used for that purpose while they weren't needed for covid .

Starblaze Thu 08-Oct-20 23:26:11

I need a very simple cortisone injection in my hips to enable me to live a happy pain free life for a good while. Can't get it. Can't risk pain killer fog due to strong painkillers I have been prescribed and don't want to risk addiction to them so just gradually getting worse and less able daily.

I really feel for people who need much more serious treatment and cant get that either

MellowYellow Fri 09-Oct-20 02:52:35

I'm sleeping so little due to pain in hips and back (can't tolerate most painkillers) that I've been hallucinating. Doctor took it very seriously and wrote to my surgeon (I'm on the hip replacement waiting list) but no response. Very worrying.

growstuff Fri 09-Oct-20 07:24:10

This is why we must try to bring down Covid infection rates. We're already seeing a sharp increase in hospital admissions for Covid, so the situation will only get worse.

The only alternative would be to increase funding to the NHS, but even then it's not possible to train people quickly to cope with the increases.

LadyGracie Fri 09-Oct-20 09:11:14

I made an appointment for a phone consultation with our GP practice at the beginning of September for yesterday 8th October. The result - I'm having quite serious side effects from my regular (taken for 5 years) medication, the recommendation is to take another medication to counteract the side effects from the first, the second can also have unpleasant side effects.

GrandmaMoira Fri 09-Oct-20 17:01:14

One of the issues is not being able to see a GP in order to get a referral to a specialist initially.
I completed an e-consult form (long and complicated), then had two phone consultations a while ago. I've not had any improvement but put off contacting the GP again as I felt unlikely to get the face-to-face appointment with an examination which I want/need. I have now resubmitted an e-consult form with the result that I have a face-to-face booked but it is three weeks away. My issue is something that could potentially be referred under the "two week wait" but without access to a GP that can't happen.

JdotJ Sat 10-Oct-20 09:41:45

I've been waiting since Feb for an arthroscopy for a torn meniscus. Appt should have been Apr but obviously was cancelled I had hosp letter in May deferring for 3 months, the same letter then arrived in Aug and I now fully expect to receive the same letter again in Nov.

aquafish Sat 10-Oct-20 09:43:23

Goodcto hear you finally got your eye trratment Watermeadow. Things seem to be moving in some NHS depts. i had a call yesterday to offer me varicose vein surgery after 18 months of waiting. So Im booked in for the end of Oct as a day patient, pleased to get relief from my nuisance leg veins!

Aepgirl Sat 10-Oct-20 09:52:13

I have had two hospital appointments investigating a small cyst on an ovary, and have dates for 2 follow up appointments.

Deedaa Sat 10-Oct-20 09:55:37

DD's husband had his heart procedure cancelled at the last minute on the eve of lockdown. He's now been told it will be done in a couple of weeks, so fingers crossed.

GuestCorrectly Sat 10-Oct-20 10:03:27

Our local health trust is now doing outpatient appointments at weekends to try to get the lists down. My mother has had cataract operations on both eyes separately in June (with follow up conducted at local optician’s on a Sunday) and yesterday. I’ve rarely had reason to rely on medical help but during lockdown had a gynae issue and was referred under 2 week rule and scanned, tested and hysteroscopy within days. Last week I was referred by my GP with a suspicious skin lesion; consultant appointment 5 days later and minor op to remove this coming Wednesday. Might be a postcode lottery but certainly no cause for me to complain in what would otherwise have been scary circumstances on top of scary circumstances.

Ladyleftfieldlover Sat 10-Oct-20 10:10:29

Basically, until there is a reliable vaccine or top notch treatments for covid, going in and out of lockdown will only ease hospital admissions temporarily. OH is having terrible pain with his hip and is seeing his GP next week. If he is told a replacement is the answer, he may well pay for it himself. Fortunately we have some savings and if they have to be used for medical things, so be it. The money is mainly there for overseas jaunts,but they aren't going to happen any time soon!

RosesAreRed21 Sat 10-Oct-20 10:11:38

I had the same op last Monday and only waited 7 weeks - I think that was pretty amazing - wishing you a speedy recovery

Volunteer77 Sat 10-Oct-20 10:30:18

Well my husband has been waiting nearly 18 months for a private hip replacement! Apparently Nuffield hospital has contract with NHS so cant be used now for private medicine!

GlammakAz59 Sat 10-Oct-20 10:50:22

I've neen through the last 3 month's in pain with my knee.had a mri and need a minor operation spoke with the consultant yesterday i have to wait 12 weeks i ask would it be quicker if i paid he said wouldn't want me to as eventually I'll need a knee replacement. In the meantime my quality of life is nil as i can hardly walk or stand.

allule Sat 10-Oct-20 11:18:04

With all these examples of cancellations, and us suffering while our conditions get worse, I don't know how anyone can say " We have protected our NHS"

coastiepostie Sat 10-Oct-20 12:41:25

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MadeInYorkshire Sat 10-Oct-20 15:39:23

Disgusting people cannot see their GP's!

I am waiting to have a kidney removed, last date given was 'around the 30th October' so hope it doesn't have an impact as I have enough on my plate as it is ....

My surgery really got the hump recently when it appeared in the press that GP's weren't doing their jobs!

"Some patients might be aware of the media coverage last week saying "GPs must offer Face to Face appointments". We decided to pull together some figures of our own here to demonstrate the sort of workload we have been dealing with since March (a six month Covid period).
We have never stopped seeing patients Face to Face - we just had to adjust the WAY we saw those patients - i.e. GPs/Nurses wearing PPE, patients wearing masks/visors, wiping down rooms in between patients, less patients physically waiting in the Waiting Area etc.
It's been a huge change for us but we hope you agree that we have done our best to continue providing a fantastic service to all of our patients. These figures are just the "easy" ones to search for on our Clinical System "

EllanVannin Sat 10-Oct-20 15:48:55

We in the NW have the worst coronavirus numbers in Europe. The region of Liverpool and surrounding areas have reported 1,000 cases a day which the hospital said that if it continues it'll be hard to treat them. All ages, not just the elderly as 30 yr.olds have been critically ill too. Scary.

Unless my life was in danger I wouldn't dream of making any appointments this side of the year even though I know I wouldn't have to wait to have skin cancers removed it's the thought of entering a germ-filled hospital.

NannyC2 Sat 10-Oct-20 15:56:55

allule has a point!

Yes, I have heard that things in the NHS are starting to move again - actually I just received an appointment which was overdue by 5=6 months.
You may be interested to see an interview, a latest news exclusive with an NHS Registered Nurse who has had to remain anonymous so she doesn't lose her job.

lockdownsceptics.org/

She has worked in a large NHS hospital of 800 beds throughout the pandemic and says she has never had so little to do. She has 20 years experience. Now she feels compelled to speak out against the “most wilful of lies” she has witnessed, in the hope that “such a grave miscarriage of justice for health can never be allowed to happen again.
Read how she felt such a terible fraud when people outside were clapping for the NHS!

Also, do you know (I didn't) that the UK Government have removed Form 5 of the Cremation Certificate for deaths relating to Covid-19 under the Coronavirus Act which is the form that the relative who registers the death must be given as it enables them to see and query the death certificate before cremation.
So basically if your loved one dies of or with Covid19 they can have their death certified and cremation certified by the same medical practitioner and sent for cremation within hours and the government have removed your right to see or query that decision before the cremation takes place which in turn removes your right to request a coroners report or second opinion.
Why would they do this?
Not my words - but it has been reported this is because by keeping COVID deaths high enough to justify the continuation of mask and lockdown fascism, it will prevent a lot of autopsies and second opinions. Dr. Yeadon has recently been taking them to task for classifying so many people who died of their comorbidities as deaths from COVID-19. He keeps pointing out that, on autopsy, forensic pathologists are regularly determining these patients expired from heart disease, cancer, stroke etc. more reports are saying those responsible should face justice for their crimes against humanity?

Time for the non- believers to wake up to facts and not be put off by those who deny what is happening.

tidyskatemum Sat 10-Oct-20 16:21:23

Starblaze My DH is in the same boat as you - had an appointment for a cortisone injection under X-ray in April, which was inevitably cancelled and no contact since. The physio told him cortisone injections just weren’t happening as they temporarily weaken the immune system. GP prescribed strong cocodomol, which he won’t take, so is limping along with only paracetamol for relief.