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NannyDee Wed 17-Mar-21 09:15:41

I don’t know if this is the right place to post, sorry if it’s not.

I lost my husband in August after 3 years of a long battle with cancer, we had been married for 53 years. I seemed to cope very well at first, everyone tells me how strong I am and how well I’m doing. However, the last few months have been terrible, I thought I would be getting better but seem to be going backwards. I’m in tears every day, can’t seem to be bothered to eat properly or do anything. Of course, the pandemic hasn’t helped but I am lucky that my daughter is nearby and she is a great help. But she works and I can’t be calling on her all the time.

Friends don’t understand, they see me as strong and dependable but inside I feel like I’m crumbling. I just wondered if anyone who has been through this has any wise words or advice on getting through it all.

Thanks for reading,

PJN1952 Thu 18-Mar-21 11:18:24

In my experience after being widowed at 53 I found 3 things helped: never refusing an invite for social contact (tricky now I know) and having something to look forward to in the future (also a bit tricky) and plenty of quiet ‘me’ time so my brain could process the death and everything that had happened to us as a family. I also had some Psychotherapy sessions after I hit a brick wall of misery after 5mnths - it really helped me to sleep and cope with my new life. Be kind to yourself NannyDee.

Shandy57 Thu 18-Mar-21 11:21:39

I joined WAY UP when my husband died, and found talking to other widows/widowers really helped me.

Another thing that really helped me was this Balls in a Jar article. It helped me understand that I would always live with my huge grief.

I didn't find people telling me to 'be strong' comforting at all, it seemed to be a way of telling me they didn't want me to show my grief.

Have a read and try to eat little and often, sleep when you feel like it, and remember to be kind to yourself.

"Ball In A Jar
One day I saw a notice for a talk on helping children through bereavement by Barbara Monroe, the Chief Executive of St Christopher's Hospice in London. When I arrived, what I saw resembled a physics lesson. On the table before her was a very large glass jar. Beside were three balls: one large, one medium-sized, one small. Without a word, she began to stuff the large ball into the jar. With a great deal of effort, she wedged it in. 
'There!' she said. 'That's how grieving feels at first. If grief is the ball and the jar is your world, you can see how the grief fills everything. There is no air to breathe, no space to move around. Every thought, every action reminds you of your loss.' Then she pulled the large ball out of the jar and put in the medium-sized ball. She held it up again, tipping it so the ball rolled around a bit. 'Maybe you think that's how it will feel after a time - say, after the first year. Grieving will no longer fill every bit of space in your life.' Then she rolled the ball out and plopped in the small ball.

'Now, say, by the second or third year, that's how grieving is supposed to feel. Like the ball, it has shrunk. So now you can think of grief as taking up a very small part of your world - it could almost be ignored if you wish to ignore it.' For a moment, considering my own crammed jar, I thought of leaving. 'That's what everyone thinks grieving is like,' the voice continued.

'And it's all rubbish.'

I settled back into my seat. Two other glass jars were produced from under the table: one larger, one very large. 
'Now,' she said, imperiously. 'Regard.' Silently, she took the largest ball and squeezed it slowly into the least of the three jars. It would barely fit. Then she pulled the ball out and placed it in the next larger jar. There was room for it to roll around. Finally, she took it out and dropped it into the largest glass jar. 'There,' she said, in triumph. 'That's what grieving is really like. If your grieving is the ball, like the ball here it doesn't get any bigger or any smaller. It is always the same. But the jar is bigger. If your world is this glass jar, your task is to make your world bigger.' 
'You see,' she continued, 'no-one wants their grief to shrink. It is all they have left of the person who died. But if your world gets larger, then you can keep your grief as it is, but work around it.' Then she turned to us.

'Older people coping with grief often try to keep their world the same. It is a mistake. If I have one thing to say to all of you it is this: make your world larger. Then there will be room in it for your grieving, but your grieving will not take up all the room. This way you can find space to make a new life for yourselves.'

Jillybird Thu 18-Mar-21 11:22:05

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JBones Thu 18-Mar-21 11:33:08

What wonderful advice, especially from Scribbles. I don't have anything to add but am so grateful to belong to Gransnet. I have learnt so much on subjects that are often difficult to talk about. Thank you Gransnetters.

Rosina Thu 18-Mar-21 11:33:11

As several other posters have said, there could hardly be a worse time for coping with the loss of a loved partner, and how hard this must have been for you . Grief does come and go in waves - sometimes triggered by events, memories, even scents and smells can drive us back into tears and achingly painful times. Be kind to yourself - and perhaps at a point when you are feeling a little better, remember that people who love us would never want us to be unhappy. Your DH would want to see you smile, and go on with your life, and I hope that when the time is right you can begin to do that. xx

Grandmalove Thu 18-Mar-21 11:33:49

NannyDee my husband of forty years, died in June after over two years of having kidney cancer. Like you, everyone kept telling me how strong I was and how well I coped with everything. My sister was such an amazing support. She said I would have good and bad days and reminded me that it was normal to cry and feel lost. She told me to be kind to myself and treat myself to things which made me feel better.
Lockdown made everything so much more difficult but I just took one day at a time and focused on something good even if it was just a call from a friend. Take care of yourself and be kind to yourself, you deserve it.

cupcake1 Thu 18-Mar-21 11:36:43

I just wanted to send a virtual hug and flowers and sincere condolences for your loss.

grandtanteJE65 Thu 18-Mar-21 11:38:06

I am so sorry to hear of your husband's illness and death.

People grieve in different ways, and what you are describing sounds quite usual to me.

You were strong while your husband was ill, even after you realised he was dying, you coped with his death and funeral and now the reaction is setting in.

If you can make yourself do so, open up to a close friend and explain how you are feeling right now.

It is only natural to be bone tired after the 3 years and 7 months you have just lived through, so tiredness is probably a factor here.

So is the fact that you had been married for 53 years and now have to adapt to being on your own.

Is there any possiblitiy of joining an online group for those coping with bereavement? Talking to others in a similar situation might help.

Obviously, you cannot due to lockdown, go away for a short holiday, or to visit anyone and I am sure you don't have the slightest desire right now to try and take up a new hobby!

To me this doesn't sound like depression, but perhaps your G.P. could have some helpful suggestions. It is certainly worth trying to get a check-up as if you should be anaemic or short of something like vitamin B you will just go on feeling tired.

I do hope you soon feel better, but please try to find some understanding friend who you can tell what you have told us.

LyWa Thu 18-Mar-21 11:42:18

NannyDee, I am so sorry for your loss. I can’t offer any help or advice but I just wanted you to know that by you reaching out like this you may have helped others. My 34 yr old DD lost her partner just before Christmas. She hasn’t had the lifetime of memories that you have, but all her hopes and dreams for the future have been dashed. She doesn’t have children and luckily lives nearby, so has become a bubble with my husband and me. We are very close, but it has been so difficult for me to help her through this, as she says, ‘I don’t know what it’s like’. She is so lonely, and is depressed, COVID restrictions are of course not helping this. She is getting counselling and her employer is being really wonderful ( she is working from home, which isn’t helping her loneliness) allowing her to work whatever hours as and when she feels up to it.
Reading through all of the replies has given me some pointers as to what I might do or say to help her through this terrible time in her life.
I do hope that you very soon begin to learn to live with and accept this new stage in your life, and can look at the past without too much sadness.

NemosMum Thu 18-Mar-21 11:51:16

I'm sorry for your loss NannyDee. I have lost 2 husbands, one to cancer, aged 44, and the next to early onset dementia. This is my experience. At first, you may appear to others to be strong, because you are going through the motions of normal life, but then it sinks in, and, to be honest, I think it is like recovering from a serious illness. You feel exhausted, lethargic, your memory is shot etc. etc. and it seems as though it will always be this way. But gradually, you begin to feel a bit more like yourself and you start to appreciate the little things again. You may catch yourself smiling or laughing at something, and you start to remember some of the good times before the bad times started. This is the road to recovery. You never 'get over' the loss, but the pain gets less and less, and you appreciate what you had. Your life has been better for your relationship and all you had together. This has been a particularly hard time to lose someone, but do not despair, things will get better. Thinking of you.

Annapops Thu 18-Mar-21 11:54:18

Thank you for sharing that article Shandy. It's a really good analogy on grief. I lost my husband to another woman several years ago now and the emotions I felt were very much the same as if he had died, in fact I often thought that form of bereavement may have been easier to bare. I would have held onto his love in death rather than experiencing such feelings of loss and betrayal. Once again , thank you.

JdotJ Thu 18-Mar-21 12:00:04

Sorry for your loss.
I saw something on 'This Morning' (last week?) whereby the talk was about Mental Health and Phillip Schofield said he has good friends he can talk to and if he is feeling low/needs help it's been arranged that he sends a What's App picture on his phone of a red flag and they then know he needs support and rally around.
I thought this was a good idea.

jaylucy Thu 18-Mar-21 12:07:21

There is no time limit on grieving and because you apparently coped so well at the beginning, please don't feel that you are a failure.
Grief can become all encompassing and all the things that you have described will be experienced by most people that have lost someone close, at some point in time , be it straight after, six months, a year or even beyond.
Cruse Bereavement Care may be the organisation to contact. They have a helpline on o8o8 808 1677.

pamdixon Thu 18-Mar-21 12:11:29

So sorry to hear how you are feeling. A virtual hug from me too. Its such a horrible time to be on your own. I really hope things look up for you soon. Good luck

grannygranby Thu 18-Mar-21 12:20:43

am reading a very insightful book on mourning and grief. It is called The New Black by psychoanalyst and author Darian Leader. I understand so much more now and makes me realise how poor we have become in losing our grieving rituals preferring to keep things private and then getting labelled as depressive.

Aepgirl Thu 18-Mar-21 12:21:14

NannyDee, don’t be so hard on yourself. I think immediately after bereavement we go into coping mode, arranging the funeral, settling bank details, informing insurance companies, etc. In other words, we get busy. However, once all that has been done we have time to think about our loss, and it all starts to crumble around us. Add to that, of course, the lockdown doesn’t help.
My advice would be to take one day at a time, have a good cry if you must, and then every evening tell yourself that things are getting better. Remember Captain Tom’s mantra ‘Tomorrow will be a good day’.

Take care. It’s early days yet.

allsortsofbags Thu 18-Mar-21 12:39:51

Condolences to Nanny Dee and to all the GNers who are dealing with loss flowers Especially at this present time when life is very different and we are denied so much of our usual contact and support.

As others have said Grief is never predictable and affects people in so many different ways that there is no right or wrong and being kind to one's self is one of the best ways to help one's self while In Grief and to find a way Through Grief.

There is something I like to share with people about Medication that I used to use in clinical practice and it's this : Scaffolding. When we are hit hard by trauma we crumble. When we crumble we need Scaffolding.

If your home was hit by a runaway lorry and was shaken and damaged to its foundations but you still had to live in it until it was rebuilt/repaired would you expect to do that without Scaffolding ??? No - Of course not.

You would expect to wrap that building in something strong, made up of different pieces that can be added to if needed, that can be taken down over time as and when rebuild/repairs occur.

We have built our lives with all the pieces of our time with loved ones, things we've done, places we've been and when we get hit by loss it shakes us to our foundations.

When our lives, our heart, our soul, our mind have been HIT by traumatic events (loss of a loved one is such a traumatic event) we need Scaffolding.

Scaffolding to help stabilise our structure until we can figure out how we rebuild/repair - go forward, face tomorrow, deal with today and all those other factors involved in Grieving.

Medication, Anti- Depressants or what the GP thinks might work best Can be part of the "Scaffolding".

Scaffolding (Meds) that holds us along with the support of family and friends, working with a counsellor, crying, getting angry and all the other ways we find to be In Grief then to Get Through Grief.

Or rather to Get Through Grief ENOUGH that we learn to live in a different way.

What I have always wanted is for people to have the freedom from negative messages around Medication.

If it isn't for you' it isn't for you. If you try and it works, great, if you try it and it doesn't at least you tried.

But please look at what Scaffolding you Do Have and what kindness you could do for yourself if you had some more Scaffolding?

Where possible shut the toxic voices in your head off and ask yourself this question:

"Would Medication help Me At This Time?" If it's no, it's no.

Bear in mind that trauma may change the chemicals in our system and Meds may help rebalance our chemicals.

Right now (as others have said) so many of the things that help with grief aren't available. No clubs, or lunches, visitors or visiting, no face to face, no hugs.

We are just as vulnerable to being damaged as a building but it is possible to rebuild/repair with the right supports and skills.

Use everything available that is "Right For You" but most of all be Kind to Yourself.

For the record I have never been a prescribing practitioner.

I am a retired therapist with a belief in team work. Team being client, family, friends, GP, jobs, hobbies, counselling, memories, whatever there is available use it, now more than ever.

blubber Thu 18-Mar-21 12:54:10

I'm sorry for your loss NannyDee. I am in a similar position having lost my husband to dementia two years ago. (longer than that in the sense that he was still alive but often didn't know me) When I arranged his funeral the vicar told me that, on average, people grieve for one month for every year they have been together. In my case that was 60 years (we met when I was 14) I pray I don't still feel like crying every day for another three years, and you too NannyDee. My thoughts and prayers are with you but please see your /GP who may be able to help.

riccib123 Thu 18-Mar-21 13:37:52

NannyDee, I’m so sorry for what you’re going through. My Mum lost my Dad 15 years ago after the same length of time together. I would describe her as strong but the grief is totally aside to being a strong person. It would be impossible to not miss someone after that length of time, even a person with whom you didn’t get on, so 6 months and most of it under our present way of life is no time at all. I think death is like a motorway pile up, after that happens and the cars all come to a stop, it takes a while to assimilate what’s happened. Give yourself that time. One thing I think you should always remember is that eating well and sleeping are healing-better than pills in my opinion which can have side effects. Imagine what your husband would be saying, he’s bound to have wanted you to go forward healthily. If you need quiet time to reflect or cry, go with it. The dust will settle, even if you must then see life differently in future. My best wishes to you, and if you want to write to me here, I will always reply ( actually not sure we can do one to ones, but just in case!)

deaneke Thu 18-Mar-21 13:54:52

I am so sorry to hear.
It’s grief and please use CRUSE. Phone them when you can.

Please go gently on yourself.
It’s ok to feel what you feel. Very early days. There is also a support group for widows I understand.
Big hug to you. Just take an hour at a time. Take Care

grannybuy Thu 18-Mar-21 14:06:01

My DH died unexpectedly in December, after just 24 hours in hospital. Fortunately, I was able to be with him. I accept that sadness will come and go, probably forever, to varying degrees. To my surprise, the many photographs of him, always smiling, have helped so much. They make me smile (unlike his favourite music, which saddens me), and they remind me of all the happy times. Remind yourself that you gave your DH a happy life, and take comfort from that.

Notright Thu 18-Mar-21 14:32:01

Dear NannyDee - People think you're strong, but even strong people need help and strong usually means you don't let your feelings out. Be honest with your friends, tell them you're not coping very well and you need their help. Bottling up distress is not good for anyone, but especially not in the days we are in when we are all trying to be brave.
Below is a poem of mine. Think about it.

Don’t tell me you are fine
When you're definitely not
you nod and smile
longing to chat.
More than anyone else I talk to my cat –
Even the geese down by the river
Listen
to what I have to say.
I had quite a conversation
this very day
With one who chattered back.
He cocked his head and listened to my candid response
His answer?
Don’t tell me you are fine
when none of us is fine.
we try to pass the days
in many and varied ways
But comes the time
When weariness crosses the line
And yet – we always say we are fine.

GoldenAge Thu 18-Mar-21 14:32:59

NanyDee - I am a bereavement counsellor and psychotherapist working with a Hospice and a major London hospital with people who have been bereaved during the covid pandemic (not necessarily with covid) and I want to assure you that you are not alone in your grief which is still quite recent, and that you can probably access some help from your local hospice which will have counsellors skilled particularly in the topic of cancer bereavements. You have been grieving for a few years before your husband actually passed away as you were gradually processing the diagnosis of cancer and its likely terminal outcome. Please try to find some bereavement counselling which most hospices provide free irrespective of whether your loved one died on their premises. Friends sometimes think you are 'recovered' because you put on a brave face and forget to ask how you are, and lockdown has put paid to many traditional rituals associated with grieving that would have helped you get in touch with your emotions and accept them as part and parcel of your everyday life. I am sorry you are feeling so wretched - please ask your GP for a counselling referral if you can't get help from your local hospice.

Whiteanemone Thu 18-Mar-21 15:48:12

Hi NannyDee. I’m so very sorry for your loss. I was widowed
15 months ago for the second time and everything you have written sounds so familiar.
We are all different but hold on to the thought that things will improve one day. I am sending you a big hug.

BlueSapphire Thu 18-Mar-21 16:15:30

Nannydee, so sorry for your loss. I too lost my DH to cancer three years ago, and coped really well until last summer when the effect of the pandemic really hit me and I went to pieces. I miss him so much, and being in lockdown and not being able to do all my normal activities, see friends and family really sent me over the edge. My GP prescribed anti-depressants, which have helped a bit, and I can cope much better now and am able to think logically, and deal with the dark thoughts. I just get through one day at a time and try to fill my time with activities I enjoy. It's a case of finding what helps you. Hopefully the warmer weather will help.