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Non vaccinated care staff losing jobs.

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LesLee7 Wed 10-Nov-21 22:48:44

Just seen an article that says there will be a lot of care home staff losing their jobs in the near future if they've not been vaccinated (without good reason) NHS staff have til April ?? despite them forecasting a bad Winter and knowing the difficulties over the last 18 months.
If people are "carers" I cannot understand anyone working in that sector refusing to be vaccinated. It should become part of their contract that unless there is a valid reason they need to have any recommended vaccine for this or any future epidemic.
They've just published figures of how many people they think died of hospital acquired Covid (c11000).
I'm having tests and scans at the moment and may have to have treatment. I am concerned that after being careful and shutting myself away for 18 months I could end up catching it from a thoughtless member of staff at the hospital.
Also just seen:

Singapore has warned its citizens they will have to pay for their own medical bills if they contract Covid-19 after refusing to get vaccinated without a valid reason.

Maybe we should consider that too.

mokryna Thu 11-Nov-21 14:54:16

If all the anti vaxers left who would look after the people in care homes? Would families be getting a call to collect their family members because there are no staff or would they be sent to hospitals, who are already understaffed, with long waiting lists.

Lincslass Thu 11-Nov-21 15:31:05

Doodledog

What you say is all true, winterwhite, but I don't see the link between pay and conditions of care workers and whether they should be vaccinated.

Yes, they should definitely be better paid and work fewer hours. Arguably, it is also true that if this happened there would be more applicants for posts, and employers would have a greater choice when it came to fitting the most suitable candidates to the roles, however, and this would screen out those who don't want to be vaccinated before they even got the job.

At the time when they weren't given enough PPE (which was, undoubtedly, dreadful) there wasn't a vaccine, so I'm not sure of the link there, either.

Not sure what you mean about fewer hours. Most Nursing and care staff work 12 hour shifts, care homes may worked shorter shifts as they are not dictated too by hospital trusts, most are privately run.

Katie59 Fri 12-Nov-21 09:09:50

Care homes, especially private ones are in a difficult position because they have a “duty of care” to patients/clients, allowing unvaccinated staff increases the risk and should be eliminated.
Insurers are very sensitive to eliminating possible claims.
NHS and LA are less sensitive because they are the provider of last resort and have to manage with what they have got.

Shinamae Fri 12-Nov-21 09:16:10

I am a carer, triple vaccinated. I love my job but the pay is quite appalling £9.25 an hour when a friend of mine working in Wetherspoons is getting £10.45 an hour BUT I don’t do this job for the money I do this job because I get great job satisfaction from it, going home in the evening knowing that I HAVE made a difference to somebody’s life…

Riverwalk Fri 12-Nov-21 09:43:22

Baggs

This gives some background in one of the countries

No wonder there is vaccine hesitancy in Pakistan - in planning the capture of Bin Laden the CIA set up an elaborate false polio vaccination programme and obtained DNA from his children to confirm that they had the right target.

humptydumpty Fri 12-Nov-21 19:49:40

Good for you, Shinamae thanks

Baggs Fri 12-Nov-21 20:04:13

I'll second that, humpty. Good for you, shinamae. The carers I know are like you. Well done to you and them.

JaneJudge Fri 12-Nov-21 20:05:36

They are really struggling to recruit so i cant see how they will sack people