Is Gender Critical the new Pro Life?

But equally Mr House should know there is such a thing as the male menopause

Is there now? So they have ovaries now as well as a cervix? I'm guessing biology isn't your forte trisher?

What is a male menopause?
How can anyone possibly know if it's a female menopause or a male menopause?
Do males, whoever they are, also get perimenopause?
What is the NHS doing, drawing attention to male people, whoever they are, while they quite rightly have no mention of female people (ditto)?

Have you actually looked at that page, trisher?
It says :
Is there such a thing as a 'male menopause'?
The "male menopause" (sometimes called the andropause) is an unhelpful term sometimes used in the media.

This label is misleading because it suggests the symptoms are the result of a sudden drop in testosterone in middle age, similar to what occurs in the female menopause. This is not true.
And
Lifestyle factors or psychological problems are often responsible for many of these symptoms.

It also refers to 'men' and 'male' quite a lot but the terms 'woman' and 'female' mustn't be mentioned in an article about perimenopause.
Hmmm.
I guess you have the record for believing impossible things before breakfast, or any other time.

Stonewall have backed down. They've decided that there is such a thing as a mother afterall.

Stonewall has dropped guidance advising groups on its workplace schemes to remove the word “mother” from their policies.

The lobby group said that it would no longer reward higher ranking scores to employers who replaced
“mother” with gender-neutral alternatives.

The lobby group is under mounting pressure after hundreds of freedom of information documents showed that its schemes encouraged organisations to rewrite their policies in return for points on the workplace equality index, which claims to rank the country’s most LGBT
friendly employers.

So they've basically bullied companies to do as they're told or suffer the consequences of being accused of being transphobic.

Etymology. Menopause literally means the "end of monthly cycles" (the end of monthly periods or menstruation), from the Greek word pausis ("pause") and mēn ("month").

FarNorth This label is misleading because it suggests the symptoms are the result of a sudden drop in testosterone in middle age, similar to what occurs in the female menopause. This is not true.
And
Lifestyle factors or psychological problems are often responsible for many of these symptoms. but hey, why let the men feel left out? You even have some TW insisting they have periods and menstrual cramps.............. and all without the inconvenience of ovaries, uterus and cervix ?

Chewbacca it's amazing isn't it? I wonder if they'll be issuing guidance to restore the word 'mother' back into all those documents from which it was removed? Call me a cynic but I doubt it. Still it's a success, now to get 'woman' restored with its dictionary definition

The lobby group is under mounting pressure after hundreds of freedom of information documents showed that its schemes encouraged organisations to rewrite their policies in return for points on the workplace equality index, which claims to rank the country’s most LGBT friendly employers.
Will this do as evidence of what I was saying, trisher? Are you prepared to take back your accusation that I am a liar?

trisher should issue you with a full public apology, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you Doodledog.

No, I'll probably be ignored, or there will be some dissembling bollox that tries to shift the fact that the accusation was false to something entirely different.

Never mind - the point is made, and everyone reading this thread can see it, and will see whether trisher has the grace to apologise.

I wonder if they'll be issuing guidance to restore the word 'mother' back into all those documents from which it was removed

Well maybe it's because Stonewall's CEO, Nancy Kelley said “I’m a mum. I’m married to another mum. It’s a deeply emotive term. I would be really upset if my children didn’t call me Mum.”

Like I said earlier, Stonewall is a bullying organisation. And, imo, it's usually bullies who are attracted to it and support it.

On the otherhand Rosie51 it could be because Nancy Kelley, metaphorically speaking, fell flat on her face in the Radio 4 interview on Woman's Hour last week. Emma Barnett is the best radio interviewer on Radio 4 but, to be fair NK made it dead easy for her.

Chewbacca

On the otherhand Rosie51 it could be because Nancy Kelley, metaphorically speaking, fell flat on her face in the Radio 4 interview on Woman's Hour last week. Emma Barnett is the best radio interviewer on Radio 4 but, to be fair NK made it dead easy for her.

I was crestfallen when Jenni Murray left WH, I felt she'd struggled with both hands tied behind her back. I really didn't expect much from the replacements but EB is tremendous. That said she's come into her own so much more since the stranglehold of Stonewall has been cut. I think Jenni could have said so much more if she'd had that freedom. Jenni's final statement gave me goosebumps..... 'there are many, many stereotypes associated with our gender. But our SEX we share.' and she's not wrong. My sex ties me to a woman living in a rural African village in a way it can never tie me to a transwoman.

It's absolutely chilling to think that this sort of thing can happen and people of JM's calibre are afraid to speak out.

When all of this is blown out of the water, which does seem to be happening, we (as a society) need to find ways to ensure that no other pressure group can ever gain such a stranglehold on the major institutions of our country - education, government, media - all have been in their thrall.

Oh absolutely * Doodledog* I sincerely hope this period in history is a complete anomaly.

Rosie51 The jaw dropping moment for me in that interview was when Nancy Kelley said that she'd have liked more influence in the BBCs editorial policy and, according to tomorrow's Mail on Sunday, this is what she was referring to:

"The BBC’s announcement came two weeks after the Corporation published an investigation by journalist Caroline Lowbridge in which some lesbians told how they felt pressured into having a sexual relationship with trans women – specifically, men who say they are women but who have retained their male genitals. The investigation cited three lesbian women who said they feared being labelled ‘transphobic’, and risked being shunned and threatened by the gay and trans community if they refused to take trans women as partners. They told Lowbridge they felt under a bizarre form of pressure to ‘accept the idea that a penis can be a female sex organ’. One told how she had been described as a ‘genital fetishist’ for only wanting to have relationships with biological women.
Another said: ‘I was told I owed it to my trans sisters to unlearn my “genital confusion”.’

The article also included a controversial argument made by several trans activists that expressing any preference in sexual partners should be considered ‘discriminatory’ as such preferences often exclude trans people.

The BBC won much praise for its investigation, which prompted some lesbians to express their anger at how they felt ostracised for wishing to form relationships only with women. Campaigner Kat Howard wrote that she was ‘incredibly grateful to Caroline Lowbridge, and the BBC for this article’, adding: ‘We need help protecting young lesbians everywhere from an LGBT community that would rather see them silenced than stand up to the male perpetrators of assault.’

Yet now it has emerged that months before the article appeared Stonewall’s chief executive Nancy Kelley wrote to the editorial director of BBC News to denounce Lowbridge’s work in an apparent attempt to get her piece stopped.
In her email, Kelley suggested that the BBC article would end up being ‘transphobic’ because it represented trans women as ‘sexual predators’, which was a ‘central anti-trans argument’. She further complained that the ‘highly toxic’ cotton ceiling issue was ‘analogous to issues like sexual racism"’.

So that's what she meant when she said she had wanted more "editorial input". She meant CANCEL.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10225111/Stonewall-brands-lesbians-sexual-racists-raising-concerns-sex-transgender-women.html

How anyone can say they think that all of this is not entirely misogynistic is beyond me.

It's totally chilling. And that women aka Adult female humans condone this is ........

It just goes to show that male wants/opinions/desires trump everything else no matter how those males identify. Why are so many females handmaidens to the male cause? I love my husband dearly, and in some ways he's even more 'feminist' than me, but he'll never, ever understand/know what it is to be a woman in the same way as me.

"sexual racism" ?!?
What?

FAO trisher

This is the Woman's Hour interview with Nancy Kelley, the CEO of Stonewall. It's the first item on the programme, and she admits that Stonewall 'marks' companies on their insistence on employees declaring their pronouns at 8.38 minutes into the programme.

Is this proof enough for you that I was not lying about this issue, and that my eyes and ears have not been deceiving me when I saw and heard this policy in action?

I'm sure that many readers of this thread would be interested both to listen to the interview, and to hear your response to the above question. I certainly would.

It is I think getter sinister, it is about intimidation and indoctrination of people, especially the young, into believing all this is normal, well it’s not, we all have a place in society, but
these extreme views have been taken on board by some very unpleasant people, who will get their way in whatever way they can. Did you see the marches yesterday, lots of them aimed at very young people telling them rubbish about the vaccine.
They produce all these phoney facts in such a forceful way and are doing such damage. They should be stopped along with the other lot. They are not interested in the truth.
The truth is I don’t want to be told that about 30 genders are normal, I don’t want men in woman's safe space. I don’t think that anyone under the age of majority should be encouraged in gender change. Let them develop in their own way and get to know different people and join in activities, contrary to what we are told to think.

Doodledog

*The lobby group is under mounting pressure after hundreds of freedom of information documents showed that its schemes encouraged organisations to rewrite their policies in return for points on the workplace equality index, which claims to rank the country’s most LGBT friendly employers.*
Will this do as evidence of what I was saying, trisher? Are you prepared to take back your accusation that I am a liar?

Is asking for evidence calling someone a liar Doodledog? If so then I believe there are quite a few apologies needed on GN and not just on this thread.
As for this evidence are you saying you oppose policies which promote Lesbian, Gay Bi-sexual and Trans friendly policies in the workplace? Because basically that is what the workplace equality index is. It ensures equal treatment for all of those people. Which is I would have thought something everyone would support.
It doesn't matter if you answer this by the way. I have only come on here today because I was falsely accused of calling someone a liar.
As Doodledog knows she has tried that form of intimidation on me before and had to be reported to GN. Reporting is somethng I rarely do and only when it becomes entirely personal, which for some reason is something Doodledog has chosen to make it.

I thank the rest of you for an interesting debate which I know we will never agree upon. I thank those who like me hope for a better outcome for young people and more freedom for them to be the people they want to be. I leave you all in a spirit of sisterhood because I am now taking a holiday from social media. There is life outside GN and I am getting on with it . Take it as a victory if you wish but you haven't changed my mind or that of most of the people I meet.

I've now had to come back and I am apologising. It wasn't Doodledog who tried to intimidate me but Rosie51 so apologies to Doodledog about that.
But I do wonder why they both feel the need to make things personal?
And this really is goodbye for a bit.

Enjoy your break trisher it's exhausting going around in circles and even having to defend your own character and personal life because people will use any tactics in their power to silence you.

Thank you for fighting so hard and so well.

See you soon hopefully