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Grade 4 rectal prolapse.

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dragonfly46 Sat 20-Nov-21 18:24:23

Annsixty has an excellent idea but do it at a time when ambulances are not in demand.

Elegran Sat 20-Nov-21 18:17:00

And do not, at any time, suffer in silence and say that there are countless people far worse off than you. If you are not totally honest and upfront about how awful it is, all those other squeaky wheels with lesser problems will be treated with the oil before you.

PS. I am sure that Soop and Mr S. will still be able to laugh at me telling you that when I first wrote my previous post, I found that I had typed Spoop. The subconscious at work?

Elegran Sat 20-Nov-21 18:10:42

As I recall it, soop has had no joy with NHS consultants on her problems in the past, largely owing to the notes on long-ago original surgery by a private surgeon having been lost (perhaps conveniently? who knows) when that surgeon retired and the practice changed hands. I don't know whether the NHS consultants would be any more expert on the case now. The current consultant appears to be a last hope.

Crowd funding seems the only solution, Soop ? People do that for less urgent problems

Marydoll Sat 20-Nov-21 18:07:53

Actually, that may be a good idea. My BIL had a similar problem, operated in the middle of the night in the very hospital, Soop may be taken too. However, bear in mind the nearest major hospital is at least three hours away from Soop.

There is always the helicopter!

Lizzie72 Sat 20-Nov-21 18:06:01

annsixty

I think I will offer my advice in case I was misunderstood.
I think soop should call an ambulance citing unbearable pain as she is almost totally unable to empty her bowel.
Once in hospital hopefully the seriousness of her condition will be seen for what is is and she will get her operation there and then.

Excellent advice. Please do that, Soop

kittylester Sat 20-Nov-21 18:03:14

Well, I was going to suggest crying to the gp but Ann has had a much better idea. That is genius Ann.

annsixty Sat 20-Nov-21 17:59:24

I think I will offer my advice in case I was misunderstood.
I think soop should call an ambulance citing unbearable pain as she is almost totally unable to empty her bowel.
Once in hospital hopefully the seriousness of her condition will be seen for what is is and she will get her operation there and then.

annodomini Sat 20-Nov-21 17:51:25

I sincerely doubt that there are 'countless people worse off' than you, soop. It seems to me that your condition has been mismanaged through the years by the NHS or surely someone would have spotted the need for a colostomy sooner rather than at this late date, I hope that you can make the case for NHS treatment on the grounds that you can't be expected to continue as you are. I wonder if you can find an organisation (Age UK?) to advocate for you.
Joyful news, Grandmabatty. A wee boy to cuddle once they release his mum. A wee celebration, I think! wine

annsixty Sat 20-Nov-21 17:39:56

Sorry I was going to offer advice but decided it was perhaps not appropriate.

Charleygirl5 Sat 20-Nov-21 17:03:35

Even if £25,000 could be found, that is not the end of it. I am au fait with the surgery and its problems so it is not a case of seeing the consultant once post-surgery and waving goodbye.

There would be a few trips and private consultation is not cheap. You are in Scotland so I do not know if colostomy bags would have to be purchased privately or if they could be dispensed via the NHS. I am sorry to be so negative but I am being practical- what would happen if you required future surgery?

annsixty Sat 20-Nov-21 17:00:33

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Charleygirl5 Sat 20-Nov-21 16:57:20

soop I would make an appointment to see your GP face to face and take Mr. Soop. Ask to be seen by a consultant on the NHS stating you cannot carry on and as you are and telling him the reasons why in case he has forgotten.

I know the two of you have done a lot of work on the past surgical disasters- I would precis it and give him a printed copy.

We are all behind you, whatever you choose to do.

Shinamae Sat 20-Nov-21 16:53:37

Good God Soop, £25,000 that is an awfully big amount of money but if the waiting list is very very long and you can afford it… But it’s just not fair, it should be able to be done on the NHS have you any idea at all how long you would have to wait?…?

soop Sat 20-Nov-21 16:45:20

Hello, I wonder if any one is suffering with this ailment. I am eighty. Have been treated at a variety of hospitals over a period of ten years. First surgery carried out in 2003. Am between a rock and a hard place. Can have a colostomy at a private BMI hospital for £25,000, or wait indefinitely on the NHS waiting list with no date for the foreseeable. Every day is a challenge. I appreciate that there are countless people far worse off than I am. I would however be most grateful of any first hand information that can help me to manage this dire situation. Thank you.