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Feeling helpless for son problems

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downnotout Tue 18-Jan-22 17:42:41

I have reposted this to the BlackDog11 forum.

DiscoDancer1975 Tue 18-Jan-22 15:12:55

I’m so sorry to hear of your ongoing depression issues, and it makes sense you are in control of this, until something goes wrong.

We are going through something similar with one of our sons, and a solicitor has told him that realistically, his rights as a father are encumbered by the mother’s rights. That’s not to say all is lost.

I’ve not heard of ‘ The Minute of Agreement’. Are they actually divorced? If yes...wasn’t everything, including visitation rights, sorted then? Just learning about all of this.

We are in a situation where my ex DIL wants to take the children to the other end of the country. I thought all court rulings were about what is in the children’s best interests, but apparently not.

Our son will fight this, and he will make sure he sees the children as much as possible. We suggested every time he sends something to them...cards, presents etc, he takes photos, copies, to keep. One day, those children may question why their mum took them away, and your grandson could too, in the sense that access is being blocked.

I would say to your ex DIL, if I could, that children aren’t children for long. Once they get to ten years old, certainly senior school, they start to want friends, and not parents. Its a good idea to start investing now, in any future she may have with her son. This doesn’t include blocking his father from his life. Otherwise she could ultimately find herself estranged from him...and any future grandchildren.

I’d be interested to hear how you all get on, and all the best to you.

Hithere Tue 18-Jan-22 15:06:17

Is there a court order for custody and visitation?

What measures is your son taking to take his depression under control?
He must take care of his MH first so it doesn't adversely affect his son

Mouseybrown60 Tue 18-Jan-22 14:50:20

Sorry but I hadn’t seen Pammiel’s reply.

Mouseybrown60 Tue 18-Jan-22 14:49:01

Downotout, I think you’d maybe get a lot of help and support if you post this on the Black Dog forum.
There are lots of lovely, caring grans who post on there who have lots of experience regarding depression and I didn’t want your post to go unanswered.

Pammie1 Tue 18-Jan-22 14:48:00

I’m so sorry you’re having to go through this. If your son can’t access his GP I’ve provided a link below to the NHS website which can provide an urgent helpline if you would like to speak to someone. Just click on the link or copy and paste into your browser and follow the on screen instructions on the site.

www.nhs.uk/service-search/mental-health/find-an-urgent-mental-health-helpline

You can either ring yourself and explain the situation or your son can ring and get first hand advice with whatever mental health issue he needs help with.

Your son has already gone some way towards a resolution by applying for access for his son. This is really the best way to approach things if his ex is making contact difficult. The court’s decision on contact is purely based on what’s best for the child, so unless his ex can prove the child would be at risk in any way, there shouldn’t be a problem there, and your son will have some recourse if his ex tries to interfere with any contact order the court makes. If he has regular contact with his son, the child will know he’s loved and wanted and when he’s old enough to understand, your son can explain to him that mum and dad both love him even though they are not together. It must be difficult for your son to accept, but there will inevitably be some kind of relationship established with his ex’s partner, hopefully this will be a good one and won’t interfere with the father/son relationship. I wish you well.

downnotout Tue 18-Jan-22 14:24:53

I'm not sure how to use the Black Dog forum but I understand it is for those of us who suffer from depression? I have had clinical depression for over 30 years and take antidepressants which thankfully keep it (mostly) under control. However a change in routine or a family crisis trips me up and I'm back down the black hole again.
I am down that hole now.
I dont think there is to anything to be done but I desperately need to get this off my chest and have a rant and hopefully get some support on this forum. If it is the wrong place to post please excuse me and direct me elsewhere. Here is where I am at present:
My son (28) also suffers from depression. He and his ex have a 3 year old son. His ex is making his life miserable and has done since my grandson was born. She blocks and unblocks him on all social media platforms. She tells him he is a bad father which he is not. He desperately pleads to see his son. Sometimes he says ok (when it suits her), sometimes she says no. She is a very controlling and manipulative person and has no empathy. She now has a new partner which my son suspects has been going on for a very long time. He is ok with this but at the moment he is in bits and feels suicidal. He feels that this new partner is going to step into his shoes and that he will be cut out and that his son will see this new man as his dad.
I know this is an age-old predicament and is something that has to be worked through. My son has applied for a legal Minute of Agreement so that he has regular contact with his son and hopefully she will sign it and he can have some relief that he has some legal recourse.
But when my son is down he speaks to me and at times is so distraught and unhappy that I feel totally helpless. I can't sleep and I'm jittery and no use to anyone like this. He has spoken to counsellors in the past and tried anti-depressants etc and trying to get an appointment with his GP is nearly impossible at the moment.
Is anyone else on here in, or been, in this situation? How has it been resolved and what can I do?