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maddyone Tue 26-Jul-22 10:36:25

A former NHS chairman, Professor Stephen Smith, has said that people over the age of 60 should pay for their prescriptions. He has also said that a small charge should be levied on patients in hospital, something between £4 and £8 per night, to pay for their food, similar to such a system in Germany. This would be limited to 28 nights. He also says the charges would be means tested, so the poor would not pay.
What do you think?

growstuff Fri 29-Jul-22 17:50:24

kittylester

I am not going over all that again growstuff.

It needs rethinking by someone with no political bias and an understanding of how big companies are run.

How condescending can you get volver?

Shame! People are always complaining about NHS management, but nobody ever says what these unnecessary managers do. I guess they say it because everybody else does.

growstuff Fri 29-Jul-22 17:55:02

There was a recent report about NHS management (King's Fund I think), which said the problem with NHS management is that managers aren't allowed to manage ie do their jobs. The issue is that there are so many directives from the centre that managers are reduced to clerical roles and can't actually make any decisions. You don't have to have worked in the NHS for decades to understand a criticism like that.

kittylester Fri 29-Jul-22 18:15:42

I have no doubt you are a brilliant manager volver but can hardly pass a comment on NHS Managers unless you have experienced management in the NHS. Seems logical to me.

growstuff I have had this argument on gn previously. I can't be bothered again. But, maybe, take note of someone with experience.

volver Fri 29-Jul-22 18:27:50

Now who's being condescending?

I have no doubt you are a brilliant manager volver hmm

Logical is it? You said above that it needs people who know how to run big companies. I assume by "companies" you mean "organisations". Well if you want that, plus a background in the NHS, I think you'll find that difficult to achieve. Can't have both straight away.

growstuff Fri 29-Jul-22 19:00:03

kittylester

I have no doubt you are a brilliant manager volver but can hardly pass a comment on NHS Managers unless you have experienced management in the NHS. Seems logical to me.

growstuff I have had this argument on gn previously. I can't be bothered again. But, maybe, take note of someone with experience.

I hadn't realised you had significant NHS management experience. I'm still waiting for this discussion to progress - it never does.

growstuff Fri 29-Jul-22 19:02:27

Actually kittylester, when evaluating an organisation, it's useful to bring in people who haven't worked in that particular organisation because they haven't been institutionalised. The principles of good management are fairly universal.

kittylester Fri 29-Jul-22 19:37:29

Quite growstuff, see my previous posts. Though the NHS is unique.

And, I did say 'experienced' not done the job.

Off now to eat steak, drink wine and chunter about the NHS.

volver Fri 29-Jul-22 19:47:49

Remember that Yes Prime Minister from long ago?

"That's a very good idea, but it wouldn't work in our department, Prime Minister" hmm

volver Fri 29-Jul-22 19:54:45

This seems timely ?????

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAk448volww

M0nica Sat 30-Jul-22 09:58:33

volver 'remember' Yes, Primee Minister?
During lockdown we watched both series; Yes, Minister and Yes, Prime Minister and found them as applicable to the way our current government runs as they were when they were first filmed back in the 1980s. Apart from some of the technology, little has changed.

It would have been deepy, deeply depressing had we not been laughing so much.

growstuff Sat 30-Jul-22 19:52:29

kittylester

Quite growstuff, see my previous posts. Though the NHS is unique.

And, I did say 'experienced' not done the job.

Off now to eat steak, drink wine and chunter about the NHS.

... and avoid giving any details grin