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Koalama Sun 30-Apr-23 11:52:47

As a royalist but also a princess Diana fan, I'm struggling, I can't stand to see camilla crowned queen, I don't want to watch, it's making me less of a royalist, I wish he'd just pass it on to William and Kate

paddyann54 Mon 01-May-23 11:03:30

Only "stuck with them " because of a high degree of ignorance amongst jo/joe public.I've heard so much bilge the past two weeks about the coronation .
"We need to hope Charlie lives a long time or we'll get Andrew"
,said one worthy
"Will Camillas son take over if Charlie dies or will she just carry on as Queen "
Just two of many !!
From people who have lived for 60 years or more ,have had good jobs and decent lives ...maybe its just that they've never been interested in whats going on around them ,but surely people know the basic rules of "hereditary monarchy"?
If they dont then why the hell do they think its OK to still have them?

Anniebach Mon 01-May-23 10:58:12

Diana didn’t like country life - Camilla loves country life

JaneJudge Mon 01-May-23 10:56:01

6) Camilla likes dogs - Diana didn't.

grin

Galaxy Mon 01-May-23 10:54:07

Well yes we either believe in democracy or we dont.

volver3 Mon 01-May-23 10:51:11

JaneJudge

you are preaching to the wrong person

I thought I was wink.

Sorry!

volver3 Mon 01-May-23 10:50:50

MayBee70

Galaxy

Well they havent ever voted for farage to be an mp previously so it's probably unlikely.

I’d like to think that is the case but I’m not so sure. If it’s a countrywide vote he has so much support from some parts of society.

So? If that's who the British people want as Head of State, who are you to say they can't have him?

Not that I think he'd have any chance at all.

dolphindaisy Mon 01-May-23 10:50:42

I'm not a staunch Royalist but I do enjoy reading about them. (it's like a soap opera) I've come to the following conclusions:

1) No one prevented Charles from marrying Camilla, he dithered for so long she eventually fell in love with Andrew P B so married him instead.

2) When he married Diana he had a few mistresses in the background, one was an Australian woman he called Kanga who was madly in love with him and never got over it.

3) Camilla wasn't the only one Diana was Jealous of, she publicly humiliated Tiggy LB by insinuating Tiggy had been pregnant with Charles' baby

4) Charles went on TV and told Johnathan Dimbleby that he only resumed his relationship with Camilla once his marriage had broken down. For all his faults I don't think he would lie about it but it does make a mockery of the "three of us in this marriage" line.

5) Diana had a few affairs with married men making her the third person in those marriages.

6) Camilla likes dogs - Diana didn't.

There's no denying Diana was a wonderful mother and did some very good work but she was also brilliant at manipulating the media and writing her own version of history. Camilla has made Charles very happy and seems able to handle his moods and tantrums. I have no problem with her being queen.

JaneJudge Mon 01-May-23 10:50:30

you are preaching to the wrong person

volver3 Mon 01-May-23 10:49:22

JaneJudge

they vted for Boris Johnson though

So? Its a quiet morning so I'll do this again.

Any President would not have political power, the PM will still have the political power.

And if we don't like the president, we can vote them out after 4(?) years?

You're stuck with Charles, William and George for the next 90 years, whether you like it or not.

MayBee70 Mon 01-May-23 10:48:54

Galaxy

Well they havent ever voted for farage to be an mp previously so it's probably unlikely.

I’d like to think that is the case but I’m not so sure. If it’s a countrywide vote he has so much support from some parts of society.

Galaxy Mon 01-May-23 10:46:34

Well they havent ever voted for farage to be an mp previously so it's probably unlikely.

JaneJudge Mon 01-May-23 10:43:58

they vted for Boris Johnson though

volver3 Mon 01-May-23 10:42:49

Tell me you're not serious MayBee70.

Why would anyone say that when we've had it posted innumerable times, so its neither original nor likely.

MayBee70 Mon 01-May-23 10:37:39

volver3

Well this is what you get with a hereditary monarchy, you don't get to choose who is crowned, they do.

If only there was a way of choosing who was Head of State...

I fear that the great British public would vote for someone like Nigel Farage though….sad

Anniebach Mon 01-May-23 10:37:33

Diana wasn’t princess Diana

Dickens Mon 01-May-23 10:19:06

Koalama

As a royalist but also a princess Diana fan, I'm struggling, I can't stand to see camilla crowned queen, I don't want to watch, it's making me less of a royalist, I wish he'd just pass it on to William and Kate

I'm curious as to why this was posted under "Health".

???

halfpint1 Mon 01-May-23 10:16:12

Gingster

I like Camilla and think she is perfect for Charles and the Royal family. BUT I just can’t think of her as Queen. Consort ok but not Queen. Prince Phillip never became King but was always the Queens ‘stead and stay’.

Ditto

Foxygloves Mon 01-May-23 10:12:50

Apologies -Camilla (off with her head!)

Foxygloves Mon 01-May-23 10:11:56

Is this still rumbling on?It has been explained many, times.

However I was interested to note when the Queen made her views public, ie in February of last year. I wonder if that was when the diagnosis of her bone cancer brought it home to her that a plan for Comilla’s title on Charles’s accession to the throne had to be in place?

Doodledog Mon 01-May-23 10:08:06

The difference is the same as that between Elizabeth 1st and her mother, Anne Boleyn. Elizabeth was a ruler, she was Queen in her own right and Head of State. Anne was Queen, but only as long as she was married to Henry (who could have divorced her, in which case she would have lost the title). It was an honorary title, Queen in name only. Camilla, and Kate in her turn, will be the same.

QE2 was Queen in her own right, so Philip wasn't King. There isn't a male equivalent of an honorary Queen. He would automatically have outranked her.

aggie Mon 01-May-23 09:22:51

Charles’s granny was Queen Consort , but always known as Queen 👸

Lovetopaint037 Mon 01-May-23 09:19:07

The Queen said she should be known as Queen Consort and now she is to be queen. This doesn’t sit well with me. Yes they get on well but Queen is hard to swallow.

nadateturbe Mon 01-May-23 08:47:45

volver3

Well this is what you get with a hereditary monarchy, you don't get to choose who is crowned, they do.

If only there was a way of choosing who was Head of State...

There's an idea!

Doodledog Mon 01-May-23 08:43:45

Gingster

I like Camilla and think she is perfect for Charles and the Royal family. BUT I just can’t think of her as Queen. Consort ok but not Queen. Prince Phillip never became King but was always the Queens ‘stead and stay’.

No, but as I understand it, if Philip had become king he would have outranked the Queen. This is why Elizabeth 1st never married. As King, Charles will outrank Camilla whatever she is called, so the line of succession remains in place.

Mollygo Mon 01-May-23 08:10:08

Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, wife of King George VI, became Queen Elizabeth after her husband was crowned king. She kept that title until her husband died and Elizabeth II was crowned, when she became Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, eventually shortened in general use to The Queen Mother.